# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 400
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7987 "2022-12-05T13:16:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I pronounce it “shithead” [Speaking of dog’s names…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJRYnlznx2M) Meanwhile in Arizona, Lake’s _lawyers_ are now responsible for paying the legal fees for Maricopa County: > **[Judge orders Arizona Republican losers Lake and Finchem to pay Maricopa...](https://www.kawc.org/news/2022-12-04/judge-orders-arizona-republican-losers-lake-and-finchem-to-pay-maricopa-county-lawers-fees)** > > A federal judge has ordered the lawyers for two failed Arizona Republican candidates to pay the legal fees of attorneys for the Maricopa Counties. > [@](#): > > A federal judge has ordered the lawyers for two failed Arizona Republican candidates to pay the legal fees of attorneys for the Maricopa Counties. > [@](#): > > What makes all that relevant here, the judge said, is that the attorneys failed to conduct the kind of inquiry that court rules require before filing a lawsuit and forcing those they sue to have to defend themselves in court. > "Any objectively reasonable investigation of this case would have led to publicly available and widely circulated information contradicting plaintiffs’ allegations and undercutting their claims,‘’ Tuchi wrote. > "Thus, plaintiffs either failed to conduct the reasonable factual and legal inquiry required (under court rules), or they conducted such an inquiry and filed this lawsuit anyway,‘’ the judge continued. "Either way, no reasonable attorney, after conducting an objectively reasonable inquiry into the facts and law, would have found the complaint to be well-founded.‘’ ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7988 "2022-12-05T13:26:46Z")
I mentioned it in another thread but it is particularly worth pointing out here that the lead counsel for the losers in this case is Alan Dershowitz. Bazinga! ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7989 "2022-12-05T13:28:04Z")
Finally, the courts are sending the right message - file frivolous lawsuits requesting extraordinary relief while providing zero evidence in support of any wrongdoing gets you sanctioned. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7990 "2022-12-05T14:03:11Z")
Damn straight. > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Literally every single person (and I mean dozens of times over the last three decades I’ve been hearing this) the person saying this has either promised something they can’t deliver without a bunch of other people turning their personal lives upside down for a week or three or has fucked up something so badly that they are trying to escape blame for. Have you ever heard of Seagull Management? Someone who flies in, makes a lot of noise, craps all over everything and then flies away. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7991 "2022-12-05T15:10:48Z")
Awesome, it’s really time for that shithead Dershowitz to get some blowback besides being [shunned on Martha’s Vineyard.](https://www.mvtimes.com/2022/07/20/alan-dershowitz-is-at-it-again/) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7992 "2022-12-05T15:28:04Z")
From Martha’s Vineyard article: > [@](#): > > Ebba Hierta, director of the Chilmark Free Library, told The Times she received hate mail from a Proud Boy after attorney Alan Dershowitz appeared on Bannon’s podcast. So then: > [@](#): > > In the New Yorker piece, Dershowitz claims his fans are being deprived of hearing him speak. He made the same claim to The Times, but asked to produce just one person in Chilmark who is upset about him not being allowed time at the library, he said they wouldn’t want to speak publicly. They don’t want to be “perceived as an enemy of the library,” he said. meanwhile: > [@](#): > > The reality, according to Hierta, is that she hasn’t had a single person, other than Dershowitz, contact her to complain that he’s not being allowed to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7993 "2022-12-05T15:45:51Z")
I’ve given it a great deal of thought, and have concluded that I’m not upset about it either. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7994 "2022-12-05T16:34:31Z")
Also from the article: > But the crowds were out of control. The meeting room holds 40 people, and he was pulling in 250 people. “It became a public safety hazard. The building was overpacked. Staff were being abused, and unable to deal with patron requests.” > … > In 2018, when Dershowitz asked to speak about his book, Hierta put out a plea to her fellow librarians, and Vineyard Haven stepped up and sponsored Dershowitz at the roomier Katharine Cornell Theater in Tisbury, even as he claimed he was being shunned. According to [this article](https://stacker.com/massachusetts/cities-most-expensive-homes-massachusetts), Chilmark has the 2nd highest home value in the state, with the typical home going for $2.1 million. Tisbury (11 miles away), by contrast, is all the way down at #28, with homes going for a mere $1.04 million. So you can hardly blame him for not wanting to speak in Tisbury, no one from Chilmark would be caught dead there. He may as well be talking to the fentanyl heads in Lawrence. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7995 "2022-12-05T19:12:28Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I mentioned it in another thread but it is particularly worth pointing out here that the lead counsel for the losers in this case is Alan Dershowitz. The guy is an unreserved slimeball, but he’s also a very experienced lawyer and former Harvard law professor. It’s surprising that someone of his stature could end up in such an embarrassing fiasco, but the Schadenfreude is very nice! Maybe he’s getting senile, or maybe his urge to defend MAGAts came from the same dark place as his willingness to defend all those other reprehensible criminals during his law career. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7996 "2022-12-05T19:13:54Z")
Like Giuliani, he used to be a very respected attorney - emphasis on “used to be.” Once again the Trump Reverse-Midas Effect works its stinky magic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7997 "2022-12-06T14:52:44Z")
> **[Trump's slow 2024 start worries allies | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/05/politics/trump-2024-presidential-campaign/index.html)** > > Back in 2015, Donald Trump's first campaign rally in Iowa as a contender for the Republican presidential nomination came just 10 hours after he declared his candidacy in New York. The following day, he was across the country in New Hampshire, with... … and delights foes! ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7998 "2022-12-06T17:40:09Z")
Gift link: > **[House Jan. 6 Committee Signals It Will Issue Criminal Referrals](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/06/us/politics/jan-6-committee-doj-criminal-referrals.html?unlocked_article_code=HAvsfIujCUZ6gBr6QDPc0bzVhdBwB-9AenIt9BWWZCWmNeOvAiSQQMzO3g0jSVRPFBAtP_DBTllIguuwPte5LxEQBBw46EaF8o2YiDLwJdjPbi0fJky4CxonT253-all9Z5uibaf1ByR0gYDd-WugmszHpbN-Oo84gFGUrBsqnak7h7NNnNLsEe-36oEwPNCO650eUdCghcbtI-XHuputjc2Jn3mkyaIMcv8kMxzYuUnju6_jUishVstwlCykd10HHFwla4Yxk8Mr4DL51DzFvRh-HQpOKhVT23FJzGO5RsBZrcjRCnnSbullNkuTUDFlcy7JJ2XL952uXBptJRyf28wzdYQ7qRFNhzkRIpKNR7xNvJC&smid=share-url)** > > Speaking before a formal decision had been made, Representative Bennie Thompson said his panel had not yet agreed on who would be the subject of the referrals or what the charges would be. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/7999 "2022-12-06T18:25:59Z")
There are an awful lot of caveats in that article. I think I’ll avoid getting my hopes up too much and just wait for the report to come out. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8000 "2022-12-06T18:31:29Z")
thank you for the gift link - much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8001 "2022-12-06T20:09:29Z")
Here’s another gift link with some more schadenfreude: > **[Family of Jan. 6 officer declines GOP leaders’ handshakes at ceremony](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/06/jan-6-gold-medal-ceremony-handshake/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjI4MzY2NzQiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjcwMzU3MzUzLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjcxNTY2OTUzLCJpYXQiOjE2NzAzNTczNTMsImp0aSI6IjI4MWMyMzEyLTgzZTAtNGI5Mi05ZDQ0LTg4NmFhYWI2Mjg1ZSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDIyLzEyLzA2L2phbi02LWdvbGQtbWVkYWwtY2VyZW1vbnktaGFuZHNoYWtlLyJ9.-2WcfwsHmLy2CHQNon38Wijx2JfargQrm8tapwaTVfc&itid=gfta)** > > The family of a police officer who died as a result of the Jan. 6 attack declined to shake hands with Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy at an awards ceremony. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8002 "2022-12-06T20:55:55Z")
trump organization guilty on all counts. whoa! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8003 "2022-12-06T20:58:02Z")
Trump Org guilty on all 7 counts. [This is a gift link to the article in the NYT.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/06/nyregion/trump-organization-trial-verdict?unlocked_article_code=ZoJ8-usw-bVG4HQlldnj6Uz_a5ZJGDqKbbWnY9t7BrXYiuPXIQ720ZemJrSTTNhQwevr92VrodAn1_HOwAFv7F1yOgRlenJbO64kRCCBGiLC1U2ZG66u1ZpV2g0paeqeDlDk6073vwtlr1jEqPFHmUFwyEbpO0O1IJao_SK4j8ZMl2Pa_fX6sU6yNoDz4pqhd6PeEUOzI__A6DhwNpUeYoT0ubQCC6yt-BYSc4P-O7VViTnOO4Lfff7wBGKLtCvKvEeN49dRlRG9P9lOhcZMcuSoWqdSrfGAKg1LeKV0bBTcz13WN23b0mWRKa7jV3SqYTqiB9ozUVv-P8FpPaez-Z60sVN_ZJj97CuIjgEFN1rQRToi&smid=share-url) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8004 "2022-12-06T20:58:54Z")
> **[US Courts Just Ruled Against Donald Trump In Georgia Case](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-courts-just-ruled-against-donald-trump-in-georgia-case/ar-AA14XJjp?cvid=74dbb202f8b04acfa53318eae2e7a502)** > > Donald Trump’s legal woes are going from bad to worse, as he’s just been hit with another bombshell; this time as a spate of court rulings have rejected claims by the former president and some of his allies for executive privilege preventing them... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8005 "2022-12-06T21:10:36Z")
Trump is now officially, not technically but on record, but he’s officially in charge of an actual criminal enterprise. Not in theory. In fact. Good luck with that one, Republican Party! ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8006 "2022-12-06T21:11:57Z")
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