# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 401
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8007 "2022-12-06T22:19:53Z")
Where’s Rudy??? “Giuliani grew visibly angry and evasive during his testimony on Monday, leading to rebukes from board chair, Robert Bernius. He responded “not that day” to a question whether he had co-authored the Pennsylvania lawsuit.” “I’m asking you what time it is, and you’re telling me how to make a watch,” > **[Rudy Giuliani faces disciplinary hearing over election lawsuits](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/05/rudy-giuliani-disciplinary-hearing-ethics-charges)** > > The panel is considering charges that the former mayor’s actions after the 2020 election involved ethical violations ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8008 "2022-12-06T22:24:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Trump is now officially, not technically but on record, but he’s officially in charge of an actual criminal enterprise. Not in theory. In fact. From the Guardian: > Although Donald Trump was not personally on [trial](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/05/trump-organization-new-york-tax-fraud-trial), prosecutors insisted he was fully aware of the 15-year scheme in which they said executives were enriched by off-the-books perks to make up for lower salaries, reducing the company’s tax liabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8009 "2022-12-06T22:25:27Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > He responded “not that day” to a question whether he had co-authored the Pennsylvania lawsuit.” “Ummm, errrr. I didn’t do it while wearing this suit.” (machine oil leaks out of one ear) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8010 "2022-12-06T22:37:30Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Trump Org guilty on all 7 counts. [This is a gift link to the article in the NYT.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/06/nyregion/trump-organization-trial-verdict?unlocked_article_code=ZoJ8-usw-bVG4HQlldnj6Uz_a5ZJGDqKbbWnY9t7BrXYiuPXIQ720ZemJrSTTNhQwevr92VrodAn1_HOwAFv7F1yOgRlenJbO64kRCCBGiLC1U2ZG66u1ZpV2g0paeqeDlDk6073vwtlr1jEqPFHmUFwyEbpO0O1IJao_SK4j8ZMl2Pa_fX6sU6yNoDz4pqhd6PeEUOzI__A6DhwNpUeYoT0ubQCC6yt-BYSc4P-O7VViTnOO4Lfff7wBGKLtCvKvEeN49dRlRG9P9lOhcZMcuSoWqdSrfGAKg1LeKV0bBTcz13WN23b0mWRKa7jV3SqYTqiB9ozUVv-P8FpPaez-Z60sVN_ZJj97CuIjgEFN1rQRToi&smid=share-url) Not 7 counts, 17. _ **Seventeen!!** _. I know this was probably a typo, but 17 is so much sweeter than 7. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8011 "2022-12-07T00:49:42Z")
MSNBC is saying 17 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/720_z2fV3Yo/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Organization Found Guilty Of Tax Fraud") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720_z2fV3Yo) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8012 "2022-12-07T01:02:02Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Trump is now officially, not technically but on record, but he’s officially in charge of an actual criminal enterprise. Not in theory. In fact. > > Good luck with that one, Republican Party! They don’t care. They put Rick “Medicare Fraud” Scott in charge of their party fundraising, fer corn’s sake. I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans put _'must be associated with a verifiably-criminal enterprise_’ into their party platform rules for nominating candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8013 "2022-12-07T03:59:54Z")
I’m not 100% certain what caused TFG to post this about an hour ago on Twuth because there are so many things that have happened in the last 24hrs to get him worked up: > **[Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/users/realDonaldTrump/statuses/109469895918419179)** > > Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8014 "2022-12-07T04:08:36Z")
Ah, so he’s finally confessing to be a giant scam. About time. Also, Warnock wins in Georgia. 51-49 D Senate majority. Big in that the Dems no longer have to split committees evenly, nominations will be smoother. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8015 "2022-12-07T04:12:36Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > Trump is now officially, not technically but on record, but he’s officially in charge of an actual criminal enterprise. Not in theory. In fact. > > > > Good luck with that one, Republican Party! > > They don’t care. I’ve already seen on Twitter and in the comments section on Yahoo! magats/trumpeters saying the trial was a show trial, rigged from the beginning, just like communist China, etc. Not only do they not care about the facts, they actively deny any of the facts about the jackass. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8016 "2022-12-07T05:06:26Z")
It _is_ the greatest witch hunt of all time. You know why? **Because they keep finding witches**! That is the absolute hallmark of a successful witch hunt and this one just keeps giving and giving! Also funny that he says “the people aren’t going to take it much longer”. Yes, the people do seem to be getting tired of _something_, don’t they? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8017 "2022-12-07T12:06:52Z")
Needs updating: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52548929140_9aa1a964fa_b.jpg "20221207\_060514") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52548929140/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52547997492_0482275cf5_z.jpg "73ggs2") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52547997492/) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8018 "2022-12-07T12:13:01Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > It _is_ the greatest witch hunt of all time. You know why? **Because they keep finding witches**! That is the absolute hallmark of a successful witch hunt and this one just keeps giving and giving! Making Witchhunts Great Again ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8019 "2022-12-07T12:33:13Z")
No real revelations or breaking news in this article, but I love that the headline drips with Schadenfreude: > **[This kind of week could break Donald Trump | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/07/politics/trump-bad-week-analysis/index.html)** > > Former President Donald Trump's bad week is bad news for his comeback. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8020 "2022-12-07T12:46:47Z")
We dunk on these people, and rightfully so, but may Ted Cruz’s daughter find the love and support she needs during this difficult time. Suicide is a terrible thing, and I am glad she was found before it was too late. Being a parent is rarely easy and being a child even less so. Prayers to Ted, Heidi, and the rest of the Cruz family as well. > **[Police Called to Ted Cruz’s Texas Home for Teen With Self-Inflicted Wounds](https://news.yahoo.com/police-called-ted-cruz-texas-045239352.html)** > > “This is a family matter, and thankfully their daughter is OK,” a Cruz spokesperson told The Daily Beast. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8021 "2022-12-07T13:03:38Z")
> [@solost](#): > > No real revelations or breaking news in this article, but I love that the headline drips with Schadenfreude: I disagree with the implication that Trump is not already broken. But he has increasingly been giving off that “old man shouts at cloud” vibe in his various messages. > [@JohnT](#): > > We dunk on these people, and rightfully so, but may Ted Cruz’s daughter find the love and support she needs during this difficult time. Suicide is a terrible thing, and I am glad she was found before it was too late. Being a parent is rarely easy and being a child even less so. Prayers to Ted, Heidi, and the rest of the Cruz family as well. No schadenfreude here. Whatever I may feel about Ted Cruz’s personality or politics, no family should have to go through this pain. Hoping Heidi recovers from this physically and emotionally. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8022 "2022-12-07T13:14:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I disagree with the implication that Trump is not already broken. Sure, he’s been mentally broken for many many years, but I think the article was suggesting perhaps his will and his ability to persevere in the political and public arena is finally broken. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8023 "2022-12-07T13:31:06Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > No schadenfreude here. Whatever I may feel about Ted Cruz’s personality or politics, no family should have to go through this pain. Hoping Heidi recovers from this physically and emotionally. Heidi is the wife, the article doesn’t specify which daughter is involved. I hope she does get the help her father would deny to others. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8024 "2022-12-07T13:47:49Z")
I found this. > **[Praise and backlash as Ted Cruz’s daughter comes out](https://www.sgn.org/story.php?312345)** > > Republican Sen. Ted Cruz is back in the news this week after his 13-year-old daughter, Caroline Cruz, posted a viral TikTok video exposing some of the family’s secrets. > Americans blasted Sen. Cruz last February after he took an impromptu family vacation to Cancún during the historic Texas winter storm. The senator apologized for the insensitivity and gross show of wealth by, in part, blaming his daughters for the vacation, stating, “With school canceled for the week, our girls asked to take a trip with friends. Wanting to be a good dad, I flew down with them last night and am flying back this afternoon.” > > Now, one of his daughters is biting back, and shared with the public that she does not necessarily agree with her father’s sentiments. “A lot of people judge me based upon him at first glance,” Caroline said, “but I really disagree with most of his views.” She went on to explain that she often feels stifled by the conservative patriarch, who has gone so far as to request his media team edit the top she wore for the family Christmas card to make it look more conservative. > However, one of the most notable parts of her brush with TikTok fame was her inclusion of pronouns, as well as the word “bi,” in her profile bio. Sen. Cruz has been adamantly opposed to Transgender rights, going so far as to call inclusive bathrooms “PC nonsense that’s destroying America.” His daughter’s use of pronouns shows a solidarity with the Trans community and indicates that there’s hope for even the children of some of the most influential conservatives. > > The tabloid _[Gaytimes.com](http://Gaytimes.com)_ noted the use of “bi” in Caroline’s bio as well, and mentioned comments made by fans of the video speculating around the teen’s sexuality. One commenter asked, “I see in ur bio ur bi — is that something he knows? (if ur comfortable talking ab it, I’m just curious)” [sic], to which she responded, “I haven’t told him yet, I’m kinda nervous to tbh but I don’t think he would be mad about it” [sic]. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8025 "2022-12-07T14:00:12Z")
About the Cruz family situation: > a representative for his office said: “This is a family matter, and thankfully their daughter is OK.” > “The family requests that the media respect their daughter’s privacy at this time.” For Cruz it is a family issue and they want privacy. I’m guessing that for anyone else it would be a visit from CPS. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8026 "2022-12-07T14:15:22Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > About the Cruz family situation: > > > a representative for his office said: “This is a family matter, and thankfully their daughter is OK.” > > > “The family requests that the media respect their daughter’s privacy at this time.” > > For Cruz it is a family issue and they want privacy. I’m guessing that for anyone else it would be a visit from CPS. - He’ll blame his daughter for this just like the Cancun trip. Party of Personal Responsibility, my ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=400) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=402)