# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8047 "2022-12-07T19:39:32Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> What are the chances he pays cent 1 of that $14k?
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> I say the chances are slim and FAT.

I have no idea if edicts from the ethics committee has teeth or not. Maybe it’ll just keep him from running for office again for fear they’ll refuse to give him lunch money.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8048 "2022-12-07T19:40:00Z")

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I empathize with the child. The **best case** scenario is that Ted Cruz is a hypocrite who doesn’t have any problem whatsoever with LGBTQ folks. That he loves his daughter, lavishes her with support and praise in their private home life, and then goes to work to tear down everything she identifies with and encourage his supporters to hate her.

That’s the best case scenario, and it still has obvious potential to cause sustained emotional distress. Years and years of emotional distress.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8049 "2022-12-07T20:02:33Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> No, but going in front of TV cameras and blaming your daughter for your failures as a US Senator is not going to help matters.

[Moderating]  
Discussing a young teenagers suicide attempt on the national stage is probably _also_ not helping, so we’re not going to do that here.

No more posts about the younger Cruz’s attempt on her own life in this thread.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8050 "2022-12-07T21:00:19Z")

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**STORAGE WARS: FLORIDA**  
National Security Edition

> **[Trump team finds two documents with classified markings in a Florida storage...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/07/politics/trump-lawyers-properties-search/index.html)**
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> Two documents with classified markings were found in a Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump's lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN.

Where else could the Hoarder-In-Chief have stashed classified docs? I’m assuming the crack search team trump’s lawyers hired has checked under the legs of wobbly tables in the Mar-A-Lago dining room.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8051 "2022-12-07T21:32:58Z")

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I think that Maus\_Magill was making reference to the Mexican trip the Cruz family happened to take during the Texas power grid failure.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8052 "2022-12-07T21:38:11Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> If you read the article in full, there are lots of hints that more memorable and influential members of Trump’s circle were fully involved, but with their names obscured with codewords to dodge such investigations.

Color me unsurprised. I had assumed that Republicans were working on secret deals with Venezuela, ever since they started accusing Democrats of working with Venezuela.

Every Accusation Is A Confession.

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never mind

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> but with their names obscured with codewords to dodge such investigations.

The names are obscured but enough detail is given that the list of suspects is pretty darn small. For example “US Senator 1. from Florida” narrows it down to two. Also there is mention of a White house advisor who is later referred to by the pronoun “she” which given the sausage fest that was the Trump Whitehouse would alsobe a pretty short list.

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> [@solost](#):
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> Where else could the Hoarder-In-Chief have stashed classified docs? I’m assuming the crack search team trump’s lawyers hired has checked under the legs of wobbly tables in the Mar-A-Lago dining room.

The Orange Imbecile’s complete disregard for security protocols has reached the point of parody. I hope this exacerbates the criminal consequences of illegally possessing classified documents in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8056 "2022-12-07T22:34:22Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I think that Maus\_Magill was making reference to the Mexican trip the Cruz family happened to take during the Texas power grid failure.

Perhaps, but that was a general note for the whole thread, not a specific sanction against **Maus\_Magill**. The instruction stands even if I’m wrong about which specific incident they’re referencing.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8057 "2022-12-07T22:42:40Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The Orange Imbecile’s complete disregard for security protocols has reached the point of parody.

I’m dimly recalling a Mad Magazine item from way back when. It might have been something like, “A Peek Behind the Scenes at the Pentagon,” but like I said, it was long ago, so I’m not sure.

Anyway, a high-ranking officer is chewing out a low-ranking clerk. “How could you put these Top Secret documents in an unlocked filing cabinet?”

“Hey, it was secured. See, I used Scotch tape on the drawers.”

Haven’t thought of that in years, only recently; but the more “Trump and documents” stuff comes out, the more I’m remembering it.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8058 "2022-12-08T00:23:04Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> The names are obscured but enough detail is given that the list of suspects is pretty darn small.

Agreed 100%. I’m hoping that said individuals are fully named in future cases to be revealed in glorious SchadenVISION in the near future, and a new crop of “only the best lawyers” are stuck saying “none of these documents ever mention my client by name” while a judge and jury look on with unimpressed eyes.

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And even rolling ones.

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A small helping of schadenfreude to start the day:

> **[Opinion | Donald Trump is begging for attention. Nobody cares.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/07/donald-trump-2024-stunts-attention/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM2NTAzMDQiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjcwNTAxMDI5LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjcxNzEwNjI5LCJpYXQiOjE2NzA1MDEwMjksImp0aSI6IjY3ZjYzMjViLWJlYTQtNDFmZS04ZjhkLWRkZDdiNDJhNmUzYSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDIyLzEyLzA3L2RvbmFsZC10cnVtcC0yMDI0LXN0dW50cy1hdHRlbnRpb24vIn0.kExj6SCNl9bJuVzWqFD8whBxH_gjSIH2n_EZRGFRr-Q&itid=gfta)**
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> The former president announced his 2024 run, dined with white nationalists and endorsed fringe candidates — but isn't attracting the attention he once did.

The graphs included are particularly sweet 🙂

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Lol, the closing paragraph:

> [@](#):
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> If he wants to win another term, he will have to do it the old-fashioned way: by touting his record as president (😆), building a coalition (😅) and relying on TV just a little less (🤣).

(Emojis added, of course.)

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8062 "2022-12-08T15:46:42Z")

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Wow, that’s a great data source:

[https://api.gdeltproject.org/api/v2/summary/summary](https://api.gdeltproject.org/api/v2/summary/summary)

This service allows you to rapidly create a visual dashboard that summarizes global news media coverage of a particular topic.

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It’s the Onion but the story is true. Being fired by Ye is pretty deep in the cesspool of employment.

> **[Milo Yiannopoulos Fired From Kanye West’s 2024 Presidential Campaign](https://www.theonion.com/milo-yiannopoulos-fired-from-kanye-west-s-2024-presiden-1849866173)**
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> Right-wing extremist and former Marjorie Taylor-Green intern Milo Yiannopoulos was reportedly fired from Kanye West’s 2024 presidential campaign following a string of disastrous media appearances by West and rumored campaign infighting. What do you...

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8064 "2022-12-09T02:09:07Z")

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I guess this goes here.

> **["Don't Say Gay" lawmaker resigns day after COVID relief fraud charges](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/don-t-say-gay-lawmaker-resigns-day-after-covid-relief-fraud-charges/ar-AA154DBM?cvid=c6f82084d58146ccbf909dfb0bb09631)**
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> Joe Harding, a Republican Florida state representative, was indicted on federal wire fraud charges Wednesday.

Trying to protect our children from the fags while defrauding the government out money meant for sick people.

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I guess this goes here.
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/don-t-say-gay-lawmaker-resigns-day-after-covid-relief-fraud-charges/ar-AA154DBM?cvid=c6f82084d58146ccbf909dfb0bb09631)
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> Trying to protect our children from the fags while defrauding the government out money meant for sick people. -

He was taking money for a non-existent disease so in reality he was defrauding the fraudsters. /s

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> **[Justice Department asks judge to hold Trump team in contempt over Mar-a-Lago...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/08/trump-contempt-mar-a-lago-records/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjI4MzY2NzQiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjcwNTU5NTEzLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjcxNzY5MTEzLCJpYXQiOjE2NzA1NTk1MTMsImp0aSI6ImMxMWJlYTcxLTBhZDctNGYyNy1iNGJiLWZlNTc4YmU2MWE0YiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb24vMjAyMi8xMi8wOC90cnVtcC1jb250ZW1wdC1tYXItYS1sYWdvLXJlY29yZHMvIn0.5jdnTtJlC2W3YHm-uL0GRJJgJgNOyOSyGaFx4JXEfWk&itid=gfta)**
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> The request came after months of mounting frustration from the Justice Department with the former president’s lawyers.

> One of the key areas of disagreement centers on the Trump legal team’s repeated refusal to designate a custodian of records to sign a document attesting that all classified materials have been returned to the federal government, according to two of these people. The Justice Department has repeatedly sought an unequivocal sworn written assurance from Trump’s team that all such documents have been returned, and Trump’s team has been unwilling to designate a custodian of records to sign such a statement while also giving assurances that they have handed documents back.

> Stephen Ryan, a white-collar criminal defense attorney, said it is usually not difficult to figure out who should serve as the custodian of records for a company. “In the normal course of business, if you’re a real business, you have records and you have custodians of those records that you can call on,” he said. “It’s the person who holds custody of the records as part of their day-to-day activities.”
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> In this case, however, there is no representative of Trump who has actually maintained control of the records. “The department is in effect asking for something that doesn’t exist,” he said. “This is an extraordinary problem that is factually relatively unique.”
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> At this point, he said, “no one wants to put their head in the custodian noose.”

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