# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
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Instead of one day of presents, Mike Pence gives us six crazy nights.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
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Since COVID the other two nights are wick from home.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8189 "2022-12-20T17:18:40Z")

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Google Lens found the original image.

[![](https://2486634c787a971a3554-d983ce57e4c84901daded0f67d5a004f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/shore-hotel/media/2-6372b1981e0fd.png) ](https://2486634c787a971a3554-d983ce57e4c84901daded0f67d5a004f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/shore-hotel/media/2-6372b1981e0fd.png)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8190 "2022-12-20T17:21:27Z")

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Is that… there to the bottom… is that a _dragon_?

Damn, I had no idea Judaism was so cool!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8191 "2022-12-20T17:41:19Z")

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It is known.

And see:

> **[GOP's usual embrace of Trump muted after criminal referral](https://www.aol.com/news/gops-usual-embrace-trump-muted-152747315.html)**
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> Leading Republicans largely avoided the historic criminal referral Monday, while others pressed to weigh in offered muted defenses — or none at all.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8192 "2022-12-20T18:12:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Is that… there to the bottom… is that a _dragon_?

What did you think powered the space laser?

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8193 "2022-12-20T20:57:21Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I would say he did a Hanukkah, but I left two letters out

funny

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8194 "2022-12-20T21:48:04Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Is that… there to the bottom… is that a _dragon_?

The bonsai tree in the middle is what intrigues me.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8195 "2022-12-20T21:59:45Z")

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The [distinction between a “menorah” and a “hanukkiah/Chanukkia/Hanukkah menorah”](https://www.jewishrhody.com/stories/menorah-hanukkiah-hanukkah-menorah,5837) has puzzled smarter people than Mike Pence. But you would think that even Mike Pence could have figured out that maybe you should consult a rabbi or other person actually knowledgeable about Jewish festivals to proofread your greeting card before issuing public good wishes on the occasion of a Jewish festival.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8196 "2022-12-20T22:09:32Z")

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Just proving that Jews are Asian.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8197 "2022-12-21T00:37:57Z")

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YES!

> <https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1605361699770339329?t=2pdnECJ5miDHggxEd4bICA&s=19>

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8198 "2022-12-21T00:43:12Z")

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Maybe they can release each page has limited-edition NFTs.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8199 "2022-12-21T01:07:30Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> YES!
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> [https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1605361699770339329?t=2pdnECJ5miDHggxEd4bICA&s=19](https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1605361699770339329?t=2pdnECJ5miDHggxEd4bICA&s=19)

Donny won’t be sleeping tonight. Just screaming at the help. And throwing things.

So sad!

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8200 "2022-12-21T01:16:49Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1605361699770339329?t=2pdnECJ5miDHggxEd4bICA&s=19](https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1605361699770339329?t=2pdnECJ5miDHggxEd4bICA&s=19)  
> The House Ways and Means Committee HAS VOTED TO RELEASE TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS TO THE PUBLIC

I’d be astonished if this isn’t litigated by Trump, stayed with a temporary restraining order, and delayed long enough that the new Congress/committee cancels the release. Or something along those lines.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8201 "2022-12-21T01:53:12Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I’d be astonished if this isn’t litigated by Trump, stayed with a temporary restraining order, and delayed long enough that the new Congress/committee cancels the release.

He’s kinda sorta already tried that.

> **[Supreme Court paves the way for release of Trump's tax returns to a House panel](https://www.npr.org/2022/11/22/1136846873/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns)**
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> The decision likely means that the returns will be released to the Committee immediately, ending a multi-year legal battle.

I think the SCOTUS is sick of this and isn’t interested anymore.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8202 "2022-12-21T01:53:30Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I’d be astonished if this isn’t litigated by Trump, stayed with a temporary restraining order, and delayed long enough that the new Congress/committee cancels the release. Or something along those lines.

He’s already tried all that. He’s out of runway; there’s nobody left to appeal to.

> **[US supreme court allows Congress to view Trump’s tax returns](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/22/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-congress-house)**
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> Order ends committee’s three-year battle to receive returns former president has long refused to release

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8203 "2022-12-21T02:43:08Z")

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Well he hasn’t asked me MY opinion! (He wouldn’t like it!)

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8204 "2022-12-21T04:04:20Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> He’s kinda sorta already tried that.

That’s the release to Congress, or more specifically to a couple Congressional committee chairs. That’s actually mandated by law and his suit should have been tossed immediately by every court around. But the Congressional committee releasing them to the general public is a different thing. There’s no law requiring that. He could argue privacy and probably has a good chance of winning.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8205 "2022-12-21T04:11:18Z")

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Too late.

[https://waysandmeans.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/ways-and-means-committee-votes-release-investigation-irs-s-mandatory](https://waysandmeans.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/ways-and-means-committee-votes-release-investigation-irs-s-mandatory)

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8206 "2022-12-21T04:16:01Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> That’s the release to Congress, or more specifically to a couple Congressional committee chairs. That’s actually mandated by law and his suit should have been tossed immediately by every court around. But the Congressional committee releasing them to the general public is a different thing. There’s no law requiring that.

I’d think the separation of powers would prohibit the SC from dictating what the Legislative Branch can and cannot release from their investigations, particularly in the absence of a specific law prohibiting it. Of course, there is no unenumerated right to privacy that can be applied from the Constitution.

Now that it appears that the Department of the Treasury has some questions to answer about the required Presidential Audits that seem not to have been performed, as required, I suspect the SC will let this play out between the Executive and Legislative branches before they get involved.

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