# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I wish they had built that amusement park… an then abandoned it. An abandoned amusement park is like the one thing that island is missing.

Hart Island made the news recently when they started doing mass burials there due to Covid deaths. So, it also has that going for it.

From the linked Wiki article:

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> During the [COVID-19 pandemic in New York City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_York_City), Hart Island was designated as the temporary burial site for victims of [COVID-19](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19) if deaths overwhelmed the capacity of mortuaries.[[77]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-78)[[78]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-79)[[79]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-80) At the time, deaths at home within the city had increased significantly, though the corpses were not tested for COVID-19.[[80]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-81) Preparations for mass graves began at the end of March 2020,[[76]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-WTSP-20200402-77) and private contractors were hired to replace inmate labor for mass grave burials.[[81]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-82) Although several media sources reported in April 2020 that burials had begun,[[59]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-Meier_2020-60)[[82]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-83)[[83]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-84) New York City mayor [Bill de Blasio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_de_Blasio) clarified that Hart Island was only being used to bury unclaimed corpses, as well as the bodies of those who chose it as a burial place.[[84]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-85) In 2021, the website [_The City_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_(website)) published an analysis that found there was a sharp increase in the number of interments between 2019, when 846 corpses were buried on the island, and 2020, when 2,334 corpses were buried.[[85]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island_(Bronx)#cite_note-86)

“Those who chose it as a burial place”. WTF?

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
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> [@wguy123](#):
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> “Those who chose it as a burial place”. WTF?

Well, if it was available for free, there are some folks who would choose that.

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I guess some might, but the thought of being buried in trenches, along with nearly another million, makes me think that not many people choose that location but end up there because they didn’t choose.

But, when even a simple cremation costs a couple thousand bucks, maybe some do.

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And if Great-Uncle Einar wrote in his will that he’d like a simple funeral and to be buried somewhere he could haunt…

He’d have a lot of company on… _[spooky reverb]_ _… The … Islaaaand …_

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I wish they had built that amusement park… an then abandoned it. An abandoned amusement park is like the one thing that island is missing.

Every episode of Scooby Doo has actually taken place on Hart Island.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8412 "2023-01-12T16:52:42Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Well, if it was available for free, there are some folks who would choose that.

That’s what it comes down to, though they don’t necessarily know the details of what they’re choosing. If the next of kin opts for a “public burial”, which is the option for burial to be at governmental expense, that’s the Hart Island option. I know they were under pressure to make it more clear what that entails, and they may have done so.

(Apologies for the hijack. I just wanted to underline the fact that one of Trump’s pet crooks was going to be spending time in a place where manual labor in a horror-movie setting is a vacation.)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
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> [@Balance](#):
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> That’s what it comes down to, though they don’t necessarily know the details of what they’re choosing. If the next of kin opts for a “public burial”, which is the option for burial to be at governmental expense, that’s the Hart Island option. I know they were under pressure to make it more clear what that entails, and they may have done so.

I watched a video about a young mother who had a newborn baby that died and they buried it on Hart Island immediately because she has chose the “bury in city cemetery” option (this was a couple decades ago). It took her a long time to realize where that baby had been buried. She learned where here baby ended up because of this site:

> **[The Hart Island Project.](https://www.hartisland.net/)**
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> Since 1980, 75,173 people have been buried in mass graves on Hart Island. The Traveling Cloud Museum is a collection of their stories.

Video:

> **[New York City's Hart Island: An overlooked final resting place](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-citys-hart-island-an-overlooked-final-resting-place/)**
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> A 101-acre speck of land in Long Island Sound – the country's largest Potter's field for the unknown, the unclaimed, or those too poor to afford a burial – is the final destination for many victims of COVID-19

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Jeez, I thought [Colma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colma,_California#San_Francisco_cemetery_relocations) was macabre.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I thought [Colma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colma,_California#San_Francisco_cemetery_relocations) was macabre.

There are a lot of lovely open grassy cemeteries in Colma, and nothing macabre about the place at all.

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That’s why its motto used to be: ‘It’s great to be alive in Colma’

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“There is no systemic racism in 'Merica!”

> **[City National Bank agrees to pay $31 million to resolve redlining complaints](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/city-national-bank-agrees-to-pay-31-million-to-settle-redlining-allegations/ar-AA16hFxj?cvid=9e82fde58d714937b193a1ebd407bb3c)**
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> City National Bank has agreed to pay $31 million to resolve allegations it engaged in redlining, an illegal practice where financial institutions refuse to provide credit services to people from communities of color.

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Widespread Voter Fraud!!

> **[Republican candidate's wife arrested and charged with casting 23 fraudulent...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-candidate-s-wife-arrested-charged-with-casting-23-fraudulent-votes-for-her-husband-in-the-2020-election/ar-AA16hJmX?cvid=d8cbeba167894d0c8774d409f722cc81)**
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> She was charged with 26 counts of providing false information in registering and voting, three of fraudulent registration, and 23 of fraudulent voting.

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> There are a lot of lovely open grassy cemeteries in Colma, and nothing macabre about the place at all.

It’s where you need to go to pay your respects to Emperor Norton.

You missed the anniversary of his death this year, but his birthday is February 4, if you’re interested in that.

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-candidate-s-wife-arrested-charged-with-casting-23-fraudulent-votes-for-her-husband-in-the-2020-election/ar-AA16hJmX?cvid=d8cbeba167894d0c8774d409f722cc81)  
> “ **Republican candidate’s wife arrested, charged with casting 23 fraudulent.** …”

Anytime anyone accuses Republicans of being afraid of hard work, just list the instances of them energetically trying to prove that there’s voter fraud–by committing voter fraud.

It’s an inspiring catalog of purposeful, enthusiastic effort. What an example for the youth of America!!!

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Hart Island made the news recently when they started doing mass burials there due to Covid deaths. So, it also has that going for it.

Stephen King has nothing on that. Nor Dean Koontz.

I’ve read most of their books, but that news really creeps me out.

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> **[Trump Condemns Courts For Forcing His Already Cash-Strapped Supporters To Pay...](https://www.theonion.com/trump-condemns-courts-for-forcing-his-already-cash-stra-1849986535)**
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> PALM BEACH, FL—Declaring the penalty extreme and unjust, Donald Trump condemned the New York courts Friday for forcing his already cash-strapped supporters to pay a $1.6 million fine for tax fraud. “It is wrong for the courts to place this undue...

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I’m awake and fully caffeinated. I almost fell for this but I was able to figure out that this was a fake story because Trump doesn’t care about his supporters, only that they support him biggly.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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You misunderstood the story. If his supporters have to pay those fines, then there is less money for them to give to him. That is how you know the story is true.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> That is how you know the story is true.

The fact that it says “The Onion” in the upper left is a hint that there’s the remote possibility that it may not be true. Further research is required to verify this, of course.

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Who says satire cannot be prescient?

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