# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8487 "2023-01-19T14:32:24Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> He gives a non-defense ‘defense’ against the accusation he raped Carroll that is juvenile, ridiculous and hateful- “she’s not my type”.

To which the response must be “What ‘type’ do you normally rape?”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8488 "2023-01-19T14:35:38Z")

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Yeah, NOT defending the asshole but they do kinda look alike. And it’s been said that he needs reading glasses but won’t wear them.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8489 "2023-01-19T14:36:22Z")

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That is what I like about the Pit, the smell of a burning shot down in the morning. Aaaahhh… (streching…) … good coffeine enhancing stuff this.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8490 "2023-01-19T14:51:48Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> To which the response must be “What ‘type’ do you normally rape?”

> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah, NOT defending the asshole but they do kinda look alike.

The fact that they do look alike is not a defense of trump, it’s proof that his stupid statement that she’s ‘not his type’ is bullshit. Not to mention, as Gyrate points out, trump saying ‘she’s not my type’ implies that there _ **is** _ a ‘type’ he _ **would** _ rape.

Many accused of rape would protest “I would never do that!”. A rich asshole might say something shitty like “why would I rape anybody? I’m rich and have my pick of willing partners”. trump goes below and beyond even that by giving a statement that clearly implies that he might rape someone if she suited him. If, out of all the legal shit he’s mired in, this is what he ultimately goes down for, I’d be good with that.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8491 "2023-01-19T15:25:56Z")

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-coughs-

Well, I may have gone a bit far. I hate being misrepresented, but kept it mostly polite the first time.

When someone doubles down though, it gets my goat. I’m glad those who enjoyed it did, and let’s return to our usually scheduled schadenfreude. The outrage tank (different thread) may be overdrawn, but the schadenfreude is absolutely underfilled. So to help -

[https://www.axios.com/2023/01/19/trump-lobbying-scheme-malaysia-china-sentence](https://www.axios.com/2023/01/19/trump-lobbying-scheme-malaysia-china-sentence)

Note, it’s mostly about how the person in question was convicted for attempting to lobby Trump to drop investigations into Malaysian financial chicanery with state funds. They were also reported to be one of the many political / financial criminals who were begging for pardons when the CFSG was prepping to leave. The line I enjoyed the most -

> However, U.S. District Judge Leslie Kobayashi said she hadn’t shown remorse, having previously attempted to withdraw her guilty plea, and said she must report to the Bureau of Prisons on April 14, according to AP.

Yeah, I know 2 years isn’t much, but every time one of these folks skates by on just fines sticks in my craw.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8492 "2023-01-19T15:27:02Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> The fact that they do look alike is not a defense of trump, it’s proof that his stupid statement that she’s ‘not his type’ is bullshit. Not to mention, as Gyrate points out, trump saying ‘she’s not my type’ implies that there _ **is** _ a ‘type’ he _ **would** _ rape.

To be fair (is that allowed in the pit? 😉 ), that is kinda like asking “When did you stop beating your wife?”. In saying “She’s not my type.”, he isn’t saying “She’s not the type that I would rape.”, he’s saying “She’s not the type of girl that excites me.”

Well considering the resemblance of the accuser to his former wife, that either means he’s lying, or that his former wife didn’t excite him. Considering he left his first wife for Marla, there must have been something there, so… he’s obviously lying.

Then again, his lips were moving, so he was obviously lying.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8493 "2023-01-19T15:38:10Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> The fact that they do look alike is not a defense of trump, it’s proof that his stupid statement that she’s ‘not his type’ is bullshit.

Yeah, I thought of that afterwords. Next he’ll probably say, I thought it was my wife (would still be rape though)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8494 "2023-01-19T16:02:13Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Well, I may have gone a bit far. I hate being misrepresented, but kept it mostly polite the first time.

Hey, your rant was on target and appropriate. I HATE when people give me shit because they’re not listening to what I’m saying. And then they treat you like you’re a dick for being justifiably pissed off.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8495 "2023-01-19T16:03:59Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> -coughs-

-hands over a lozenge and then gets the hell out of ParallelLines’s field of vision-

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8496 "2023-01-19T16:27:59Z")

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judge kabayashi??! wow, takes it to a whole 'nother level of “unwinnable”.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8497 "2023-01-19T16:37:20Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> judge kabayashi??!

Just wait until she marries Jimmy Maru, and changes her last name to Kobayashi-Maru.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8498 "2023-01-19T16:37:44Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> To be fair (is that allowed in the pit? 😉 ), that is kinda like asking “When did you stop beating your wife?”. In saying “She’s not my type.”, he isn’t saying “She’s not the type that I would rape.”, he’s saying “She’s not the type of girl that excites me.”

It really isn’t, because the original query wasn’t a binary gotcha. There are many ways one can protest that one doesn’t commit rape, but “She’s not my type” is a glaring non-denial.

I’m not saying it’s incriminating, but it ain’t a good look (although that’s true of pretty much everything Trump says).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8499 "2023-01-19T17:44:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> There are many ways one can protest that one doesn’t commit rape, but “She’s not my type” is a glaring non-denial.

Sort of like saying “I didn’t take any documents, and I want them back”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8500 "2023-01-19T17:52:41Z")

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Looking at the [unsealed deposition from the Carroll case](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.16.2.pdf), there’s a beautiful moment in which the attorney questioning Trump indicates in three short words the sum total of fucks given [bolding mine]:

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> Q. Why did you decide to issue the statement on Truth Social on October 12th?
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> A [Trump]. Because I was offended at this woman’s lie. Because I was offended that she could just make up a story out of cold air, refuted by her testimony on CNN, but that she could make up a story just out of nowhere and that I get a phone call asking me about this ridiculous situation. The woman – there’s something wrong with her in my opinion. Okay. But it’s a false accusation. Never happened, never would happen. And I posted and I will continue to post until such time as – and then I will sue her after this is over, and that’s the thing I really look forward to doing. And I’ll sue you too because this is – how many cases do you have? Many, many cases, and I know the statements that were made – that you made. Keep Trump busy because this is the way you defeat him, to keep him busy with litigation. So I will be suing you also, but I’ll be suing her very strongly as soon as this case ends. But I’ll be suing you also.
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> **Q. Are you done?**
> 
> **A. Yeah.**

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8501 "2023-01-19T17:54:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate (quoting Trump)](#):
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> So I will be suing you also, but I’ll be suing her very strongly as soon as this case ends.

Suing very strongly. What an ass.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8502 "2023-01-19T17:59:15Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So I will be suing you also, but I’ll be suing her very strongly as soon as this case ends. But I’ll be suing you also.

The threat of a lawsuit isn’t particularly intimidating when you’re simultaneously demonstrating how terrible your legal team is.

It’s like a guy getting his ass kicked, and as he’s shakily getting up and spitting out a tooth, points to someone else and says, “You’re next!” Before getting knocked on his ass again.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8503 "2023-01-19T18:08:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s like a guy getting his ass kicked, and as he’s shakily getting up and spitting out a tooth, points to someone else and says, “You’re next!” Before getting knocked on his ass again.

That guy is showing some pluck.

Trump is more like the guy, who after pissing himself in public, angrily shouts “I’m not done!” and proceeds to shit himself.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8504 "2023-01-19T18:09:45Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Trump is more like the guy, who after pissing himself in public, angrily shouts “I’m not done!” and proceeds to shit himself.

Good point. My analogy might have been better if the guy didn’t bother to get up, but just pointed at someone and between sobs screamed, “You’re next”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8505 "2023-01-19T19:53:12Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> > judge kabayashi??!
> 
> Just wait until she marries Jimmy Maru, and changes her last name to Kobayashi-Maru.

LOL. Bonus points for the _Star Trek_ reference.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8506 "2023-01-19T20:52:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> LOL. Bonus points for the _Star Trek_ reference.

Well, Trump has surely demonstrated how he handles a no-win situation.

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