# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 429
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8567 "2023-01-23T00:07:55Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > The money was put up, but he only gets to claim it if he does actual work. If he’s not doing anything, he’s not touching the money. Honestly, if someone told me, “I’m such a good lawyer, I actually got Trump to pay his bill”, that would be a hugely positive recommendation. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8568 "2023-01-23T00:23:16Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > The money was put up, but he only gets to claim it if he does actual work. If he’s not doing anything, he’s not touching the money. If he is any kind of lawyer, there’s a clause in there that guarantees a monthly minimum retainer payment. In the 10s of thousands, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8569 "2023-01-23T00:26:44Z")
Plus, I’d love to see how he billed Trump for “Analysing batshit insane legal theories and then rejecting them.” Gotta be at least a few billable hours right there. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8570 "2023-01-23T00:28:29Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “Analysing batshit insane legal theories and then rejecting them.” Probably just “legal consultation”. In my role in IT, I consider telling people that they’re trying to do something stupid and/or impossible to be consultation as well. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8571 "2023-01-23T05:10:56Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In my role in IT, I consider telling people that they’re trying to do something stupid and/or impossible to be consultation as well. In my distant past, I spent a year as LAN administrator for a small naval unit. The leading chief constantly asked me why the network was crashing. My usual response: “I’m not responsible for errors in the organic element”. I considered that the most important part of that job. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8572 "2023-01-23T05:29:55Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In my role in IT, I consider telling people that they’re trying to do something stupid and/or impossible to be consultation as well. My last job before retirement was with another state agency, and when the Legislature\* was in session one of my duties was to provide estimates for implementing the proposed legislation that affected my area. Since I was the only person maintaining a 20+ year old COBOL system which was due for replacement anyway, I had no problem either saying what they wanted was impossible, or providing an estimate that would have eaten up half the agency’s budget. Fortunately, I had a treasure of a manager who a) knew the score and b) was quite willing to back me up. \* Pronounced “Leg” (as in “ledge”) by state employees. Generally a term of derision. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8573 "2023-01-23T19:07:37Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “I’m not responsible for errors in the organic element” Or, PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8574 "2023-01-23T21:02:51Z")
PEBKAC is a classic. I used to call it a “Chair to Keyboard Interface Error”. Just my own personal nickname for that particular phenomenon. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8575 "2023-01-23T21:06:56Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > PEBKAC We called it PEBSAK. Problem Exists Between Seat And Keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8576 "2023-01-23T21:09:23Z")
Either that, or it’s an ID-10t error. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8577 "2023-01-23T21:14:50Z")
Pilot error. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8578 "2023-01-23T21:35:20Z")
Some actual (welcome) Schadenfreude for the 1/6 Terrorists (there, see, I can use the word, happy?) [https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/richard-barnett-pelosi-office-january-6/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/richard-barnett-pelosi-office-january-6/index.html) But more importantly [https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-verdict/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-verdict/index.html) Although the crimes of the first asshat are less serious, some of his ‘claims’ threatened to make me have a cartoon-steam-whistle-moment. > After the verdict, Barnett’s lawyer Joseph McBride told reporters outside the courthouse that his client had not received a fair trial, saying that Washington, DC, is “not a state” and made up primarily of “Biden voters.” > > “We’re not saying there is something inherently wrong with DC or with the jurors.” McBride said. “We’re saying that we believe politics is the big elephant in the room that nobody wants to speak about here and political considerations about this trial have damaged the jury pool to the extent that we can’t get a fair trial.” So as I read it (another article had the convict saying “it wasn’t a jury of [his] peers”) they feel he can only get a fair trial from old white republican voters. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8579 "2023-01-23T21:36:15Z")
When I was a [driving instructor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-high-performance-driving-instructor/354791), we said there was a nut loose behind the wheel. ---
**Author:** ![Redcanoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b487fb/32.png) [@Redcanoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redcanoe)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8580 "2023-01-23T21:38:24Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Pilot error. Or “A short between the headsets” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8581 "2023-01-23T21:54:25Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > So as I read it (another article had the convict saying “it wasn’t a jury of [his] peers”) Big fat dog-whistle there. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8582 "2023-01-23T22:10:29Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Having said that, what is so special about the word terrorism? It connotes a political act. Just because this has been normalized doesn’t mean we should just throw in the towel. It also packs an emotional punch that people in this country needs. We have a political party using terrorist tactics to destroy democracy. We should refer to terrorists as “enablers” just because that’s how it’s been accepted? We need to push back on further normalizing the terrorist organization know as the Republican party, We’re at a crisis point in this country. We need to fight back any way we can. So, yeah, I’ll point out further normalization when I see whether or not a prosecutor sees the post or not. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8583 "2023-01-23T22:15:14Z")
Found a different article that has the line I remembered, assuming of course all the reporting is accurate. > **[Jan. 6 rioter who put his feet on desk in Pelosi’s office is convicted on all...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/jan-6-rioter-put-feet-desk-pelosis-office-convicted-counts-rcna66814)** > > Richard Barnett, of Arkansas, said on the witness stand last week that he regretted going to the Capitol the day of the riot. > After the verdict, Barnett told reporters outside the court courthouse, “This is not a jury of my peers. I don’t agree with the decision, but I do appreciate the process and we are surely going to appeal.” Just wanted to get a correction so we’re using the perps exact words, not my paraphrase. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8584 "2023-01-23T22:20:07Z")
Oh, and interesting updates on our NM Republican shooting organizer and felon - [https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/solomon-pena-court-detention-hearing/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/solomon-pena-court-detention-hearing/index.html) > Albuquerque Police Detective Conrad Griego, citing a confidential witness, said Peña had complained that at least one of the shootings occurred too late at night, with bullets fired too high into the house – decreasing the chances of hitting the target. I don’t know anything about the witness (one of his stooges that did the actual shooting seeking a plea?) but if born out, that clearly indicates intent to cause harm (up to and including attempted murder) rather than just vandalism. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8585 "2023-01-23T23:20:54Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > “This is not a jury of my peers. I don’t agree with the decision, but I do appreciate the process and we are surely going to appeal.” They find out that the law actually applies to them and cry out - Mommy! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8586 "2023-01-24T00:10:16Z")
I think he wants a jury consisting entirely of right-wing terrorists. You know, his peers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=428) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=430)