# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 437
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8727 "2023-02-01T16:36:22Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Wahh, no other president has ever been treated so unfairly! Kennedy, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley would like a word, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8728 "2023-02-01T16:55:48Z")
He prefers to admire presidents who don’t get assassinated. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8729 "2023-02-01T17:35:39Z")
If he doesn’t like witch hunts, why did he have a rally in Salem? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8730 "2023-02-01T19:55:22Z")
Here’s more on his paltry 2024 fundraising. Why anyone would want to give money to someone who brags about how wealthy he is, and who then spends very little if any of his own money on his campaigns, is just one more puzzlement of the Age of Trump. > **[Trump struggles to raise money since launching his 2024 presidential bid](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-revamps-fundraising-operation-struggling-120000499.html)** > > In numbers shared exclusively with NBC News, the former president raised $9.5 million over the final six weeks of 2022 — less than he raised the six weeks before his launch. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8731 "2023-02-01T19:57:06Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Why anyone would want to give money to someone who brags about how wealthy he is, and who then spends very little if any of his own money on his campaigns, is just one more puzzlement of the Age of Trump. Espeically since it was such a big deal in 2016. “He can’t be corrupted, since he doesn’t need money.” “He’s self-funding his campaign, won’t owe anyone anything.” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8732 "2023-02-01T23:37:17Z")
Children, unable to get basic shit together. > **[The first hour of a GOP-led House committee's meeting was a food fight over...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/first-hour-gop-led-house-212024696.html)** > > "I can't believe we're having this debate," one Republican said. The spat signals likely showdowns to come in the GOP-led Judiciary Committee. Something tells me that “I can’t believe we’re having this debate” will be their most frequently repeated statement over the next couple years. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8733 "2023-02-01T23:44:24Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Children, unable to get basic shit together. I was unaware that the House started each day with reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. And now they want to repeat it at committee hearings? What an empty, yet offensive, gesture. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8734 "2023-02-01T23:56:33Z")
Well it says that one is patriotic without one having to actually demonstrate patriotic ideals. I believe the Republicans call it “virtue signalling” and place a great value on it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8735 "2023-02-02T00:15:21Z")
> “And I don’t know why we should pledge allegiance twice in the same day to show how patriotic we are.” As a child in elementary school, I wondered why we’d have to recite it every day. Do pledges expire at the end of the day? If I recited it once at the beginning of the school year, I’d expect it to last at least all year. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8736 "2023-02-02T00:27:54Z")
It’s called indoctrination. I know several immigrant kids who were forced by their teachers to recite the Pledge as well. Clearly those teachers got the real point of it - to enforce uniformity and empty public displays of patriotism. The whole ‘allegiance to America’ part of it is just words. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8737 "2023-02-02T01:46:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Well it says that one is patriotic without one having to actually demonstrate patriotic ideals. I believe the Republicans call it “virtue signalling” and place a great value on it. I always say that republicans need to make big patriotic displays to show they love their country because you certainly couldn’t tell any other way. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8738 "2023-02-02T02:12:51Z")
Its sort of like the rosary. You can fuck your best friend’s wife without being sinful if you say 10 our fathers, and you can subvert Democracy without being unpatriotic if you say 12 pledge of allegiances. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8739 "2023-02-02T02:55:31Z")
Children, do what I tell you, How shall I brainwash you? Well, I’m gonna brainwash you one by one. One for the Stars and Stripes That song you don’t understand at all. Children, do what I tell you. How shall I brainwash you? Hey, I’m gonna brainwash you two by two. Two for the flag and the republic, One for the national anthem, That song you don’t understand at all. Children, do what I tell you. How shall I brainwash you? I’m gonna brainwash you three by three. Three for the branches of government, Two for the flag and the republic, One for the national anthem, That song you don’t understand at all. Children, do what I tell you. How shall I brainwash you? I’m gonna brainwash you four by four. Four for the cops that beat King. Three for the branches of government, Two for the flag and the republic, One for the national anthem, That song you don’t understand at all. Children, do what I tell you. How shall I brainwash you? I’m gonna brainwash you five by five. Five for the Central Park defendants, Four for the cops that beat King, Three for the branches of government, Two for the flag and the republic, One for the national anthem, That song you don’t understand at all. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8740 "2023-02-02T03:17:03Z")
Shouldn’t that be “12 pledges of allegiance”? But that opens up the possibility that there’s [more than one pledge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance). 😄 ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8741 "2023-02-02T13:58:49Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It’s called indoctrination. Yep. I hate the Pledge of Allegiance. I hate any sort of repeating of mantras, rites and ceremony. Not that I go to any church, but this is the sort of thing that would drive me away from a lot of them as well as organizations such as the Masons. It is all creepy to me and always has been. Even the playing of the national anthem before a sporting event should get the fuck out. Guess I shouldn’t run to be a House member. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8742 "2023-02-02T14:09:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > You can fuck your best friend’s wife without being sinful if you say 10 our fathers, Good to know, she usually makes me mow the lawn. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8743 "2023-02-02T15:04:40Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I hate any sort of repeating of mantras, rites and ceremony. The one time I liked it was when I studied Kung Fu. Every day we had to pledge, “I will develop myself in a positive manner, and I will use my Kung Fu only in self-defense and defense of others.” Notice I still remember it word-for-word decades later. I liked it because it wasn’t an empty ceremony; it was a reminder not to abuse the skills we were taught. And I never broke my vow. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8744 "2023-02-02T15:15:18Z")
I would have _fewer_ issues with the pledge of allegiance if people focused on the merits of the last part, and not just the first part. “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Somehow, authoritarians (mostly, but not exclusively republican) spend all their time on the first three words, when I want to remind them about the “liberty and jusitice for all” which they absolutely abhor. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8745 "2023-02-02T15:17:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I liked it because it wasn’t an empty ceremony; it was a reminder not to abuse the skills we were taught. And I never broke my vow. It was also a pledge that you chose to take. Not a pledge you were required to take. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8746 "2023-02-02T15:18:49Z")
It’s a bit much of you to expect them to have enough attention span to make it all the way to the end. It’s like 2A types who can only remember the last 4 words of their favorite amendment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=436) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=438)