# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 444
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8867 "2023-02-11T22:14:55Z")
Republicans are divided on whether acting like children is a good thing or a bad thing. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UZ3qgRXpXSo/maxresdefault.jpg "Republicans Aren't Sure If Acting Like Children Is Helping Or Hurting Them") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3qgRXpXSo) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8868 "2023-02-11T22:45:07Z")
Not sure how a video of some guy (I have no idea who he is, some anonymous YT commenter) sitting in front of a camera and spouting his own opinions amounts to schadenfreude. Admittedly, I didn’t get past halfway through, maybe the good schadenfreude came later. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8869 "2023-02-12T17:30:12Z")
To the surprise of nobody with reasonable thinking skills, a research firm hired by Trump found no evidence of wrongdoing in the 2020 election. Of course, he buried the findings. I’m guessing he also tried to bury the 600k bill. > **[Revealed: Trump campaign buried research about 2020 election outcome when it...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-campaign-2659404401/)** > > Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign commissioned an outside research firm to prove electoral fraud claims, but its work never saw the light of day after no evidence was found to support those claims, the Washington Post reported in an exclusive story... ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8870 "2023-02-12T17:59:06Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Not sure how a video of some guy (I have no idea who he is, some anonymous YT commenter) Apparently he’s a progressive Floridian. [https://twitter.com/farronbalanced?lang=en](https://twitter.com/farronbalanced?lang=en) > **[Farron Cousins](https://truthout.org/authors/farron-cousins/)** > > Farron Cousins is the executive editor of The Trial Lawyer magazine, and his articles have appeared on The Huffington Post, AlterNet and The Progressive Magazine. He has worked for the 'Ring of Fire' > **[Ring of Fire (radio program)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire_(radio_program))** > > Ring of Fire is a progressive syndicated American talk radio program hosted by Mike Papantonio, Sam Seder, and Farron Cousins. The three hosts focus on "exposing Wall Street thugs, environmental criminality, corporate media failure, and political backstories rarely found in the mainstream media". The show has been on the air since 2004 and is currently aired on forty–three radio stations across the United States. > J Michael Papantonio is an attorney specializing in mass torts litigation and i... [https://www.linkedin.com/in/farron-cousins-1a179279/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/farron-cousins-1a179279/) > **[Republicans Are Following Trump Down A Dark Path](https://thetriallawyermagazine.com/2021/07/republicans-are-following-trump-down-a-dark-path/)** > > By Farron Cousins Donald Trump famously told his followers during the 2016 election that there would be “so much winning” that they would get tired of winning. Five years later and that promise has aged like milk. Regardless of what he says, Donald... ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8871 "2023-02-12T19:28:30Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Apparently he’s a progressive Floridian. I didn’t say I cared who he is either, even if he is not quite anonymous. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8872 "2023-02-12T21:19:47Z")
[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/us/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-trump-investigations.html?unlocked\_article\_code=yMoL7BKcpLR2CYJs9ybXmoODq8oBXdk70GElnTLkxJ1QQxtADyTiTIaGMt9cVV-OAvmKTPweSuP28r1LElHInn8cLfH0YseZpHbdd295D9yuiBKE8uVULIUplatZAtZO4fe\_5NMpX0rkWG8D4Yt-Zna9OmcWmdZg7g6oi-yo64e8raItSvSL37I8zJvzj1GlMj1EcxE4MCsWeKEgOFkIRKDdmK2zjULccdnV\_WOo9H1KOzHZ7eP3du6GYYwfdvZiN9U\_6BsxAqir3cnNj\_axN1i1Jwbp0aJcY8pbQDogupDWbDdV0jeMfan2CEd3iIW8AAXl2WMVTjXVhhYDtHMfjxeELzDBnfbl\_i4Ern7dhjh1ek-dio7QlLY9ghUy&smid=share-url](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/us/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-trump-investigations.html?unlocked_article_code=yMoL7BKcpLR2CYJs9ybXmoODq8oBXdk70GElnTLkxJ1QQxtADyTiTIaGMt9cVV-OAvmKTPweSuP28r1LElHInn8cLfH0YseZpHbdd295D9yuiBKE8uVULIUplatZAtZO4fe_5NMpX0rkWG8D4Yt-Zna9OmcWmdZg7g6oi-yo64e8raItSvSL37I8zJvzj1GlMj1EcxE4MCsWeKEgOFkIRKDdmK2zjULccdnV_WOo9H1KOzHZ7eP3du6GYYwfdvZiN9U_6BsxAqir3cnNj_axN1i1Jwbp0aJcY8pbQDogupDWbDdV0jeMfan2CEd3iIW8AAXl2WMVTjXVhhYDtHMfjxeELzDBnfbl_i4Ern7dhjh1ek-dio7QlLY9ghUy&smid=share-url) (Gift link) My favorite passage: > “I’ve never seen anything like it,” Chuck Rosenberg, a former federal prosecutor and former F.B.I. official, said of the cascade of Trump aides and lawyers becoming drawn into investigations. “It’s just a whirling dust cloud, and everyone who gets near it gets covered in grime.” I don’t know Mr. Rosenberg, but I suspect if he had not been speaking to the NYT, he might have used a word other than “grime.” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8873 "2023-02-12T21:42:07Z")
I’ve seen him as a talking head on MSNBC a lot, and he’s pretty low-key. That’s rather purplish prose for him. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8874 "2023-02-12T22:53:04Z")
Go, Jack, go! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8875 "2023-02-12T23:15:10Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I’ve seen him as a talking head on MSNBC a lot, and he’s pretty low-key. That’s rather purplish prose for him. Very true. Rosenberg is possibly the least-inclined-to-hyperbole commentator around. > > [@Railer13](#): > > To the surprise of nobody with reasonable thinking skills, a research firm hired by Trump found no evidence of wrongdoing in the 2020 election. Of course, he buried the findings. I’m guessing he also tried to bury the 600k bill. > > [Revealed: Trump campaign buried research about 2020 election outcome when it didn't fit the script - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-campaign-2659404401/) If this doesn’t constitute strong evidence that Trump KNEW he’d lost the election, I don’t know what would. I mean, what else could anyone ask? You’re not going to get an email or other written communication from Trump saying “yeah, I lost.” If this isn’t good enough, what would be? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8876 "2023-02-13T14:11:05Z")
You forget, Trump’s going to control the narrative as long as possible. He’s going to use the “stolen election” bromide as a 2024 campaign issue, and continue to use it after he loses. He knows a lie becomes the truth when it’s repeated often enough. He won’t publicly admit to the actual result, no matter how many volumes of truth are thrown at him. Neither will his followers. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8877 "2023-02-13T14:22:15Z")
I don’t think he physically could admit it without modifiers. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8878 "2023-02-13T14:23:10Z")
At the risk of a hijack, I’m gonna put this one here, because I don’t know where else to put it. > ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8879 "2023-02-13T14:31:03Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I don’t think he physically could admit it without modifiers. “I won the election if you don’t count the votes of all those ‘woke’ mobsters who refuse to Vote Trump just because they hate me! It’s not fair to have an election when one candidate is hated by so many lamesters on the left!” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8880 "2023-02-13T16:26:17Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > You forget, Trump’s going to control the narrative as long as possible. He’s going to use the “stolen election” bromide as a 2024 campaign issue, and continue to use it after he loses. The fun part is going to be seeing how is uses it when he’s losing the Republican primary. Does anyone know when the 2024 Republican convention is likely to be? I want to know which date to target my purchase of popcorn futures. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8881 "2023-02-13T16:42:14Z")
It’s more than a year off so it wouldn’t be set. But who else would be it be? It’s the same issue from 2015 - people are writing him off for some reason, but he was leading the field the entire way. That can certainly change over the next year, but for the moment, he’s leading the field. I don’t see much short of a stroke that changes how this plays out. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8882 "2023-02-13T16:48:02Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > That can certainly change over the next year, but for the moment, he’s leading the field. I don’t see much short of a stroke that changes how this plays out. The big difference is that the field is much smaller. In 2016, everyone and his dog in the GOP took a shot at the nomination, and that was a big part of what let Trump get so far ahead. Now, all the bit players know they’re doomed going up against Trump, but a big player like DeSantis still thinks he has a shot, and a lot of other Republicans seem to be backing that. If the party can keep it to a Trump vs. DeSantis vote, DeSantis has a real shot. It’s not a guarantee for him to win, but it’s not a guarantee for Trump, either. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8883 "2023-02-13T16:58:38Z")
The really hilarious thing, IMHO, is how it’s going to shred the GOP for 2024. They can’t coalesce behind another candidate until Trump is charged with potential crimes. This won’t get him out of the race, but it will give the GOP cover to advance a different candidate. When they do, Trump will fuck them good and hard by running as an independent. So their choice is to either back an indicted likely felon or try to escape his clutches. No other candidate or big money donor knows where to jump until this is resolved, except the Kochs and McConnell’s war chest. They for sure won’t back Trump. Tick, tock, tick, tock, every day the dilemma lasts is another day they can’t organize behind a new candidate. Take your time, please, Mr. Smith! I am confident he has a “charge by” date in mind. But I’m happy to leave it up to him. Meanwhile, Biden is already happily campaigning away. I’ve seen his ads in heavy rotation. They’re all so positive, too. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8884 "2023-02-13T17:40:53Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > At the risk of a hijack, I’m gonna put this one here, because I don’t know where else to put it. That tweet speaks to the literal meaning of the title of this thread. > [@Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895): > > Have you heard about Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA 14)? She’s a prominent QAnon supporter; believes that the Parkland and Sandy Hook shootings were false flags; said that Hillary Clinton is behind school shootings to help Democrats rustle up support for stricter gun control laws. She hounded and harassed David Hogg outside the Capitol building before she was elected. She believes that the Camp Fire in California was caused by Jewish space lasers. And she has supported people cal… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8885 "2023-02-14T00:51:20Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “I won the election if you don’t count the votes of all those ‘woke’ mobsters …" Looks like the House GOP is reserving “mobsters” for their very own use: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/politics/kevin-mccarthy-debt-ceiling-strategy/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/politics/kevin-mccarthy-debt-ceiling-strategy/index.html) > [@](#): > > … a nickname from “The Godfather” of warring New York mob families who tried to maintain the peace… The CNN author’s take may be a bit conservative: the Five Families reference is not merely to a movie, but was used in real life for the New York mafia and associated conflicts. So, you must find another term for the “woke”----Organized Crime references have been reserved by today’s Republican Party!!! ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/8886 "2023-02-14T01:42:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So, you must find another term for the “woke”----Organized Crime references have been reserved by today’s Republican Party!!! Yes, I think Roger Stone patented them when he ordered Randy Credico to “do a Frankie ‘Five-Angels’” at his trial. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=443) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=445)