# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 453
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9047 "2023-03-05T04:00:27Z")
Soviet Gestapos. Hmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9048 "2023-03-05T04:21:15Z")
Nazgûl Dementors. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9049 "2023-03-05T13:22:13Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > Soviet Gestapos About 20 million Russians (et al.) and 5 million Germans died…for nothing?! ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9050 "2023-03-05T17:30:48Z")
The wheels of the bus are about to get their first sacrifice… [Among the names on the list of those to be potentially axed from the network include popular Fox News stars such as Sean Hannity, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro.](https://radaronline.com/p/sean-hannity-maria-bartiromo-jeanine-pirro-fired-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-scandal/) The blood is about to flow through the hallways tonight… [On the lighter side, Bill O’Reilly went on his old buddy Glenn Beck’s show…and proceeded to make a fool out of himself:](https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/bill-o-reilly-makes-massive-blunder-as-he-trashes-former-employer-fox-news-amid-1-6-billion-dominion-lawsuit/ar-AA18fqYX?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=816838f6c25c41a3ee01ec39abcd8d8b&ei=10) > O’Reilly, 73, the former host of _The O’Reilly Factor_ , then cited the [appointment](https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/sky-news-david-rhodes-executive-chairman-1235536842/) of former CBS News president **David Rhodes** at [_Sky News_](https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/malaysia-airlines-sky-news-victim-luggage/)as the impetus for the winds of change he believes are about to [sweep through the corridors](https://radaronline.com/p/sean-hannity-maria-bartiromo-jeanine-pirro-fired-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-scandal/) at Fox News. Sounds juicy, boys & girls, except for one thing… > O’Reilly appears to have missed **Rupert Murdoch’s** [widely reported](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/26/rupert-murdochs-sky-reign-to-end-as-fox-sells-all-shares-to-comcast) sale of _Sky News_ to Comcast in 2018 which ended the mogul’s three-decade reign at the British satellite and broadband business. Never was the sharpest knife in the drawer… ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9051 "2023-03-05T18:07:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > the now ancient “no affair” story > > Is that the one where he had an affair? I’m surprised he didn’t describe it as “perfect”. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9052 "2023-03-05T18:45:20Z")
The Radar Online link is kinda confusing since the headline says they’re NOT “tipped to be fired” but the article itself says they’re out. And a couple of other articles — such as the one claiming the SS is blasting Jimmy Carter as a “phony” and his entering hospice as a “show” — smack of old-school RW glurge. That said, however, if the article is correct it’s a baby step ~~in the right~~ away from the wrong direction. Though it seems Fucker Carlson’s job is still safe. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9053 "2023-03-05T19:05:48Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > The wheels of the bus are about to get their first sacrifice… > > [Among the names on the list of those to be potentially axed from the network include popular Fox News stars such as Sean Hannity, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro.](https://radaronline.com/p/sean-hannity-maria-bartiromo-jeanine-pirro-fired-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-scandal/) Tucker Carlson is not mentioned here, but he was also implicated in the disclosure that Fox News stars privately derided Trump’s election claims while publicly endorsing them. The two assholes that I would especially like to see sacked and disgraced are Hannity and Carlson. Hannity always reminded me for some reason of either a crooked used car dealer or a crooked service manager at a shady car dealership. He just has those features and mannerisms that scream “crook!”. Carlson never really reminded me of anything human – maybe something like a horse’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9054 "2023-03-05T19:23:20Z")
Realistically, the reason that Fox News is so bad is because it’s pop/tabloid journalism. Compare it to any other new source that’s reporting on alien sightings and conspiracies and there’s not going to be much difference in the true/false ratio. The Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times, The Economist, etc. - traditional serious news sources for financial/right wing types - are all being perfectly unobjectionable and no one’s complaining about them or the people that read them, despite how many on the right went over to Trump and nonsense. So if you’re reading [The Radar Online](https://radaronline.com/p/chris-brown-reacts-to-ufos-being-shot-down-aliens/) - a pop/tabloid journalist rag - I’m not sure that you should feel comfortable trying to call out others for subscribing to nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9055 "2023-03-05T19:28:33Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > So if you’re reading [The Radar Online](https://radaronline.com/p/chris-brown-reacts-to-ufos-being-shot-down-aliens/) - a pop/tabloid journalist rag - I’m not sure that you should feel comfortable trying to call out others for subscribing to nonsense. “ **My** nonsense is better than **your** nonsense!!” But, point taken. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9056 "2023-03-05T19:31:34Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > The wheels of the bus are about to get their first sacrifice… > > [Among the names on the list of those to be potentially axed from the network include popular Fox News stars such as Sean Hannity, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro.](https://radaronline.com/p/sean-hannity-maria-bartiromo-jeanine-pirro-fired-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-scandal/) How can they fire somebody who deserves a Pulitzer Prize? So saith the Orange Oracle: > "We’re trying to get the Pulitzer Prize taken away. They got Pulitzer prizes. We’re suing. You know what the prize says? ‘For its concise and accurate reporting on the Russia, Russia, Russia event…’ And they have it actually totally wrong. > “Actually, Mark Levin should get a prize. And Gregg Jarrett should get a prize. And even it’s not his deal, Sean Hannity should get a prize. And frankly Jesse should get a prize. And you know who should get a prize? Tucker should get a prize.” ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9057 "2023-03-05T19:40:10Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The Wall Street Journal … - traditional serious news sources for financial/right wing types - are all being perfectly unobjectionable I beg to differ. Since the Murdoch takeover – and in fact even earlier – the WSJ has been particularly objectionable for its various highly partisan lying editorials, particularly in the area of climate science. Just flat-out outright lies. As for _The Radar Online_, I’m not familiar with it and my comments were just expressing the hope that what they’re saying is true. At first glance it doesn’t seem likely that Fox would fire any of its biggest stars, but then, it would have seemed unlikely that Bill O’Reilly would be sacked or Roger Ailes forced to resign. It would also have seemed unlikely that the Dominion lawsuit would have caused so much damage at Fox. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9058 "2023-03-05T19:45:59Z")
If my math is correct, 75% of those being named are women? How very… Right. ---
**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9059 "2023-03-05T19:46:18Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I’m surprised he didn’t describe it as “perfect”. I’m sure, like all of Trump “perfect” actions, it might be perfect for him, but ut is always a nightmare for the other. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9060 "2023-03-05T21:42:21Z")
He means price, not prize. And, sadly, we all know what their price is. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9061 "2023-03-05T22:04:19Z")
When they’re made aware of it, conservatives that I’m seeing on social media sites are completely unmoved by the revelations from the Dominion/Fox case. For one thing, they’ve generally never had a good understanding of how a reputable news gathering process works. And they absolutely believe that it is Fox’s commercial duty to deliver what they want to hear, facts and reporters’ understandings of them be damned. After all, that’s exactly what the mainstream media has done for decades to make the left so powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9062 "2023-03-06T01:10:24Z")
“They all do it! The liberal media is worse! Why do you hate America?!?!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9063 "2023-03-06T17:39:01Z")
How can I hate a country in which good things like this happen?: > **[Paul Manafort agrees to pay $3.15 million to settle case with US government |...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/06/politics/paul-manafort-settlement/index.html)** > > Paul Manafort has agreed to pay $3.15 million he owes to the US government over misrepresentations he made on his tax returns almost a decade ago, bringing to a close the former Trump campaign chairman's financial tangles in court. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9064 "2023-03-06T21:32:32Z")
I have to disagree somewhat though, as earlier versions of that article made points that quite a lot of his financial weaseling was still vacated by the pardons and/or pleas, so only a relatively small amount was able to be recouped in this _particular_ effort. Still, I _mostly_ agree, in that any recovery (with penalties and interest) that he and his ilk are forced to cough up is a step towards justice, even if only a small one. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9065 "2023-03-06T21:40:04Z")
[Judge orders sanctions against Arizona GOP candidate who refused to accept loss (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-orders-sanctions-against-arizona-gop-candidate-who-refused-to-accept-loss/ar-AA18hTKC?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=149082a3ba754feb92b622fda641fe18&ei=12) Seems like the courts are starting to tire of TFG’s election denial tactics (without presenting any, you know, actual evidence to support claims) that have been imitated by others. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9066 "2023-03-06T22:00:58Z")
Hey Arizona, um, Kari Lake? Remember her? How come she isn’t being sanctioned too? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=452) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=454)