# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 455
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9087 "2023-03-08T16:42:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > One wonders if Trump has seen this I was certainly wondering the same thing. His buddies at Fox didn’t really like him? That’s got to be hard to swallow. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9088 "2023-03-08T16:43:01Z")
Especially considering that they’re now inviting DeSantis on pretty much daily. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9089 "2023-03-08T16:56:46Z")
All Tucker has to say is that his comments were taken out of context, and his fans will eat it up. No one will ever ask him to put them in context, or indeed, what context could possibly change the meaning of such plain language. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9090 "2023-03-08T17:06:05Z")
“How were your comments taken out of context?” “I didn’t want you to hear them.” ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9091 "2023-03-08T17:15:42Z")
I can’t imagine daily life believing that being proven wrong, about anything even just once, destroys your credibility and trustworthiness on any subject forever. It kind of makes sense that they snap like this. It must be exhausting. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9092 "2023-03-08T17:17:56Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > And it turns out, Fucker Carlson was agreeing with us the whole time. He’s just too fucking evil to admit that. He knows where his money comes from - the idiot rubes. And he likes his money. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9093 "2023-03-08T17:25:04Z")
Or, “I just said that to troll the lamestream media, and they fell for it lol!” “Didn’t you type that in an e-mail?” “Shut up!” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9094 "2023-03-08T17:26:06Z")
Now we know for a fact that viewers aren’t going to see any of this on Fox News. But they aren’t the only game in town. i"m sure that ONAN, Sinclair and the like are just chomping at the bit to take Fox’s place at the top of the garbage heap. So they are going to publicize the disloyalty of Fox far and wide. I expect we will see a leopard feeding frenzy as conservative media sees the blood in the water. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9095 "2023-03-08T17:47:54Z")
It’s pretty common on the right. I don’t understand it, but I see it all the time. They absolutely refuse to admit to a mistake, and in the unlikely chance that they do, they then claim that that mistake will be held over them. Now, it’s entirely possible that it will be, that people on the right hold such high contempt for error, but over here on the left, it’s more forgiving. While I will happily hound someone for making a mistake they won’t admit to, once they do, then there’s no reason to continue, they’ve learned and grown. But they think that admitting to a mistake is something that will be held over their heads forever. As an example: > [@I want to start a thread, but I think I will need moderator support](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-want-to-start-a-thread-but-i-think-i-will-need-moderator-support/980583/143): > > Because of that error, I might as well check out of this thread because now that example will be brought up forevermore and taint ALL of my issues as invalid. I actually thought that we were making pretty good progress, and working towards a mutual understanding. Then he pulls that, and I’m left wondering why. Is it something that _he_ would do? If not, why does he think that others would? So much of the right’s performance isn’t in reaction to what anyone has done, it’s in reaction to what they _think_ others will do, and they seem to use what _they_ would do as that benchmark. Honestly, that last line probably taught me more about right wing grievance mentality than the proposed thread would have. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9096 "2023-03-08T17:59:39Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But they think that admitting to a mistake is something that will be held over their heads forever. It’s because the right is inherently authoritarian. If you admit error, you lose your claim on authority. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9097 "2023-03-08T18:17:39Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Then he pulls that, and I’m left wondering why. Is it something that _he_ would do? If not, why does he think that others would? Because it has happened before a few times here on the SD and FTR not a Pub/Dem thing. It is a argument people use of “You made one error therefore by induction everything after that (that I co-incidently disagree with) is also in error.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9098 "2023-03-08T18:59:06Z")
If you say so, while I’ve seen it plenty of times when an error is doubled down on, I’ve never seen it after an error was admitted to. You didn’t say it might be, or it could be, you said it _would_ be, essentially accusing me of acting in bad faith in advance, acting on nothing but your assumption as to what I would do. Anyway, it was just an observation that enlightened me greatly as to why the right always reacts to assumptions rather than facts, why they never admit that they are wrong, and why they always feel that they are the victim in any interaction, even if they entered swinging. I have no idea what to do about it, but that mentality is most likely to be what leads to the cause of the downfall of our country. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9099 "2023-03-08T20:57:08Z")
“News (department) destroyed us,” texted Hannity to Doocy. As an old newsroom hound, that text said mountains. At Fox, the news room is not supposed to practice journalism. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9100 "2023-03-08T22:15:42Z")
> **[Murdoch confided Trump was going ‘increasingly mad’ as Fox pushed false claims](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/03/07/rupert-murdoch-fox-news-dominion/)** > > The media executive's astonishingly candid assessments are found in thousands of pages of internal Fox documents released as part of a lawsuit by Dominion. “Increasingly mad” - something about this phrasing caused me to laugh hysterically. It’s so apt and articulated so well. Now I can’t stop giggling every couple of minutes. [Link](https://wapo.st/3kWWCJJ) (free) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9101 "2023-03-09T00:53:28Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > It is a argument people use of “You made one error therefore by induction everything after that (that I co-incidently disagree with) is also in error.” I fuck up all the time and apologize and/or thank people for correcting me. It has never followed me or haunted me. If it did, I wouldn’t be here anymore. I don’t think screwing up is a big deal unless the person who screws up makes it a big deal. Usually by being defiant, doubling down, pretending they didn’t say what they did, ignoring corrections, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9102 "2023-03-09T06:28:09Z")
> **[Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell hospitalized after fall](https://news.yahoo.com/spokesman-gop-leader-mcconnell-hospitalized-051011780.html)** > > Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has been hospitalized after tripping at a local hotel on Wednesday evening, a spokesman for the senator said. The Kentucky senator, 81, was attending a private dinner in Washington when he tripped. ... _oh no_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9103 "2023-03-09T07:28:19Z")
I bet it took two people to flip him back over, that shell is heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9104 "2023-03-09T11:48:20Z")
I assumed he surrounded himself with replicants in order to feel normal. Guess he got lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9105 "2023-03-09T12:02:18Z")
The article says he was hospitalized after “tripping at a local hotel.” I will choose to believe this means he ate a fistful of blotter acid. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9106 "2023-03-09T12:41:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I fuck up all the time and apologize and/or thank people for correcting me. > > It has never followed me or haunted me. If it did, I wouldn’t be here anymore. Likewise. Work as an example. Mostly I’ll just say “I own that, I screwed up (or forgot or whatever)” It is only then that you can fix it and move on. Otherwise, all you do is constantly try to cover your tracks and don’t get a damn thing done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=454) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=456)