# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 458
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9147 "2023-03-10T16:06:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > “The fact that after their intensive investigation the DA is even considering a new political attack is a clear exoneration of President Trump in all areas…” Don’t worry counselor. This is just getting started. You may want to get a retainer from Donald. Cash the check. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9148 "2023-03-10T16:11:58Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > This must come from the same page of the playbook that dictates that if you present evidence of someone’s racism, that makes you a racist. “Only a racist would have noticed that the guy I was yelling at was Black!” ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9149 "2023-03-10T16:13:40Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Come on Georgia. Come on Jack Smith. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9150 "2023-03-10T16:21:47Z")
I think the argument that they are trying to make is that after there being so much recent news about him being investigated for everything under the sun he’s not being indicted for any of it, and instead they had to come up with something completely different brand new to indict him with. So that means that they must have come up empty on the other stuff. If I’m being investigated for murder but in the end the DA indicts me for disturbing the peace, that probably means he didn’t have good evidence that I committed the murder. This of course ignores the fact that the Stormy Daniels issue was one of the first bits of criminal malfeasance that Trump was investigated for, and so is the most mature of all of the cases against him. It is not too surprising that they are indicting him in FIFO order. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9151 "2023-03-10T16:30:17Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This of course ignores the fact that the Stormy Daniels issue was one of the first bits of criminal malfeasance that Trump was investigated for, and so is the most mature of all of the cases against him. It is not too surprising that they are indicting him in FIFO order. It is baffling that it’s taking so long. I understand being careful, but the facts of this crime were established years ago. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9152 "2023-03-10T16:35:33Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > It is not too surprising that they are indicting him in FIFO order. The "they"s are different. This is New York, as opposed to the ~~feckless~~ worthless Merrick Garland, who appears to be too cowardly to ever indict Trump for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9153 "2023-03-10T16:46:05Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > who appears to be too cowardly to ever indict Trump for anything. Yes he cowardly hid by launching a raid on Trumps home, fighting him in court to retain the evidence and hiring a gungho no-nonsense special counsel to investigate all things Trump. 🙄 But there is another [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/f-merrick-garland-he-wont-be-going-after-anyone/968190) for this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9154 "2023-03-10T17:01:03Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This of course ignores the fact that the Stormy Daniels issue was one of the first bits of criminal malfeasance that Trump was investigated for, and so is the most mature of all of the cases against him. It is not too surprising that they are indicting him in FIFO order. If Michael Cohen is to be believed, Trump is a past master of the Mafia don method of having others do his dirty work with no records - written or otherwise - of his having directed it. “It would be a shame if something should happen to him/her.” I think he made a rare mistake with Daniels by leaving a trail that prosecutors could follow. While his more egregious transgressions may never stick to him, any conviction is a good conviction. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9155 "2023-03-10T17:39:33Z")
Funny that Trump is trying to get the October trial date pushed back six months using the argument that there isn’t enough time for his legal team to review the mountains of evidence against him. The obvious answer, of course, is to hire more lawyers. The obvious problem, of course, is that it’s getting harder and harder to find (competent) lawyers who want to work for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9156 "2023-03-10T17:41:07Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > it’s getting harder and harder to find (competent) lawyers who want to work for Trump. He could always be assigned a public defender… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9157 "2023-03-10T20:06:56Z")
That was Bill Barr’s job. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9158 "2023-03-10T21:34:27Z")
Haha, nice. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9159 "2023-03-10T22:11:18Z")
I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9160 "2023-03-10T23:50:30Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The obvious answer, of course, is to hire more lawyers. Less evidence would be a plus too. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9161 "2023-03-11T00:58:49Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Come on Jack Smith. I’ve been reading things (and forgetting where) that the state courts have a better shot at convicting TFG, apparently less opportunity for delays? (IANAL) I would guess a plus of state courts that I don’t remember reading anywhere is that there is zero chance he ends in front of a judge that he appointed. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9162 "2023-03-11T01:52:08Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > That must be some new definition of “exoneration” I am not aware of. It’s obviously from the same dictionary which gives _factual information I dislike_ as the meaning for _fake_. > [@EllisDee](#): > > Merrick Garland, who appears to be too cowardly to ever indict Trump for anything. I was given to understand his investigating grand jury did not have indictment powers, but their report was to be turned over to a grand jury which could indict. Is that incorrect? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9163 "2023-03-11T01:56:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I was given to understand his investigating grand jury did not have indictment powers, but their report was to be turned over to a grand jury which could indict. Is that incorrect? Yes, incorrect. This was the situation in Georgia, with Fani Willis’s case. Jack Smith has 2 grand juries going now simultaneously and he’s running through all the players. Mike Pence, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have been recently subpoenaed to testify under oath to the January 6th one. Both of Smith’s grand juries have the power to indict. Smith is also currently arguing privilege issues before the chief judge overseeing these cases, Beryl Howell, I believe. She’s about to step down as Chief Judge and will relinquish her duties to another judge whose name I can’t recall, but who has an equally stellar reputation. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9164 "2023-03-11T01:59:17Z")
Thanks! That’s the problem with dealing with someone whose crimes are all over the place, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9165 "2023-03-11T02:01:22Z")
In hindsight, I wish I’d started a spreadsheet. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/9166 "2023-03-11T02:02:45Z")
Or a _Who’s on First_ parody. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=457) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=459)