# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/942 "2021-02-25T23:09:49Z")
When he was in the White House, all sorts of people and organizations were booking rooms or entire floors in that hotel to curry favor with him. I’m sure he made a pile of money. But now? Some percent of the people and companies won’t want to give any money to any group he’s associated with. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/943 "2021-02-25T23:20:14Z")
Yeah it’s a ghost town now. During his kleptocracy, it was quite the scene. > **['Pay Trump bribes here' sign projected onto Trump's DC hotel | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/16/politics/trump-hotel-projection)** > > Visitors to the Trump International Hotel in Washington were greeted with a provocative message Monday night: "Pay Trump bribes here." > **[After Presidency, Trump Hotel in Washington Is a Limited Draw (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/us/politics/trump-hotel-washington.html)** > > Traffic on two recent evenings at the hotel was exceedingly slow, even after the city lifted a ban on indoor dining. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/944 "2021-02-25T23:23:57Z")
This is the downside of being so closely associated with one side of a deep partisan divide; half the people are going to hate you. Note that some people, like Dolly Parton, are careful not to take sides. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/945 "2021-02-25T23:31:41Z")
What the fuck does Dolly Parton have to do with any of this? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/946 "2021-02-25T23:32:35Z")
Honestly, nothing. Her name came to mind as someone who is careful not to take sides in the culture wars. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/947 "2021-02-25T23:35:16Z")
She might not declare a party, but her support for scientific research, helping needy children and belief in literacy means she’s not a fucking Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/948 "2021-02-25T23:35:38Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Her name came to mind as someone who is careful not to take sides in the culture wars. Apparently this has been a bit awkward in light of [multiple recent offers of the Presidential Medal of Freedom](https://www.today.com/popculture/dolly-parton-turned-down-presidential-medal-freedom-twice-t207752): > [@](#): > > The [queen of country](https://www.today.com/popculture/dolly-partons-75-birthday-here-are-8-reasons-we-love-t206026), 75, told TODAY in an interview that former President Donald Trump’s administration tried to give her the nation’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, twice but she had to turn them down. > > “I couldn’t accept it because my husband was ill and then they asked me again about it and I wouldn’t travel because of the [COVID](https://www.today.com/coronavirus),” she explained, adding that she has since heard from President Joe Biden about the award as well. “Now I feel like if I take it, I’ll be doing politics, so I’m not sure.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/949 "2021-02-25T23:42:10Z")
There’s also this: “I don’t think putting me on a pedestal is appropriate at this time.” > **[Dolly Parton rejects proposed statue of her at Tennessee Capitol: "I don't...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dolly-parton-statue-tennessee-capitol/)** > > Parton thanked Tennessee lawmakers, but asked them not to consider a bill that would allow for a statue of her on the grounds of the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/950 "2021-02-25T23:47:20Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Her name came to mind as someone who is careful not to take sides in the culture wars. > **['Of Course Black Lives Matter,' Dolly Parton Tells Billboard](https://www.npr.org/2020/08/14/902506007/of-course-black-lives-matter-dolly-parton-tells-billboard)** > > "Do we think our little white asses are the only ones that matter? No!" the singer, songwriter, philanthropist and businesswoman told the music magazine. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/951 "2021-02-25T23:57:53Z")
Saying that people are equal is taking sides? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/952 "2021-02-26T00:02:35Z")
``` bobot: Saying that people are equal is taking sides? Wow. ``` For one side, it is. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/953 "2021-02-26T00:04:24Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Saying that people are equal is taking sides? Wow. Yeah that was always something that gobsmacked me in regard to reactions to the BLM movement. In this day and age, where everybody falls over themselves to deny being racist, how does the mere assertion that the lives of black people are not intrinsically unimportant or unworthy get you labeled a raving left-wing fanatic? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/954 "2021-02-26T00:04:47Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Saying that people are equal is taking sides? Wow… That’s what the enemy in this culture war is all about, right? The conclusion, of course, is that “not taking sides in the culture war” is not a virtue, and not an option for any civilized person. Although of course I recognize that Dolly Parton may as a strategic matter choose to represent herself as politically neutral, I don’t for a moment believe that her underlying beliefs are really “neutral” toward the values embraced by the current incarnation of the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/955 "2021-02-26T00:56:20Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > I worked in the Old Post Office for virtually all of '89. As I recall, the [second floor roofs](https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10150937/img1591*1200xx3264-1836-0-306.jpg) were very leaky – particularly during torrential rain – and I have no idea if they ever got fixed. Trump, pay to fix something? Naw, they just marketed the rooms under that leaking roof as “Rainforest Spa Rooms.” I’m guessing. \ > [@Riemann](#): > > …Although of course I recognize that Dolly Parton may as a strategic matter choose to represent herself as politically neutral, I don’t for a moment believe that her underlying beliefs are really “neutral” toward the values embraced by the current incarnation of the Republican Party. Dunno how DP votes, but she comes from a part of the world in which most white people were Democrats until the Nixon era, then became Republicans. She might well have been a Republican of the pre-Trump era. But no thinking person who isn’t making money off a Trumpublican stance could be a Trumpublican, so I’m guessing (again) that Parton, as a thinking person, hasn’t been voting Deplorable in recent years. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/956 "2021-02-26T01:05:22Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > In this day and age, where everybody falls over themselves to deny being racist, how does the mere assertion that the lives of black people are not intrinsically unimportant or unworthy get you labeled a raving left-wing fanatic? To draw an extreme analogy, it’s sort of like a movement called Don’t Kill and Eat Children. If you don’t support the organization’s slogan, that doesn’t mean that you think it’s okay to kill and eat children, it means that you think it’s so obvious that you question the motives of people who think that you need to be told this. (However, a proper answer to “Don’t Kill and Eat Children” is indeed “why would you think I want to?”, and not “no one should be killed and eaten! That must mean you think adults should be killed and eaten!”) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/957 "2021-02-26T01:08:02Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > To draw an extreme analogy, it’s sort of like a movement called Don’t Kill and Eat Children. If you don’t support the organization’s slogan, that doesn’t mean that you think it’s okay to kill and eat children, it means that you think it’s so obvious that you question the motives of people who think that you need to be told this. That only works as an analogy in a hypothetical world where children _are_ regularly being killed and eaten, far more often than adults are being killed and eaten, and nobody gives a shit. In other words, in a world where it _does_ need to be said. And in that world, if you oppose the slogan on the basis that as an obvious _abstract_ principle “adults matter too, nobody should be killed and eaten”, then you are identifying yourself as one of the people who doesn’t give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/958 "2021-02-26T01:25:18Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > nobody gives a shit. That’s false. There are people who need to hear it. For instance, I enjoyed it when it was painted near the White House. But saying “no one gives a shit” is not really believable. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/959 "2021-02-26T03:58:23Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > But saying “no one gives a shit” is not really believable. [This might help you.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/960 "2021-03-02T14:13:59Z")
Mwuhahahahahaha. > **[Trump is facing probes from 5 independently elected investigators | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-scrutiny-five-investigators/index.html)** > > Five independently elected investigators have turned their attention to former President Donald Trump, a sign his legal woes are mounting as he no longer enjoys the protections once afforded to him by the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/961 "2021-03-02T14:29:08Z")
From the article,… > [@](#): > > Trump is now facing inquiries run by elected officials from Georgia to New York to Washington with only their constituents to answer to. Most are Democrats, but one key investigation was launched by a Georgia Republican who has faced heavy criticism from Trump since the election. You know that the CFSG & his enablers are going to immediately dismiss the Democrat prosecutors as part of the witch hunt; it’s a shame that the only Republican to “probe” is in Georgia, giving them an out - “oh, he’s only doing this because Fearless Leader has been dissing him.” Oh, and a shoutout to the article (and pointing out to those who don’t know) - > [@](#): > > attorneys general This is the proper way to pluralize attorney general - “attorney” is the noun; “general” is the adjective. It’s one of the few times where the adjective comes after the noun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=49)