# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1162 "2021-03-21T23:49:22Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Our vision of the future, imagining a boot stamping down on the face value of Trump assets, forever.

This gives me a warm glowing feeling.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1163 "2021-03-22T13:08:49Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> What I’ve always wondered about this kind of thing, is do all these people with private jets also have a full-time pilot, co-pilot, flight mechanic (whatever the minimal crew is) on their payroll, just sitting around for the boss to want them to fly somewhere? A couple of stewardesses, too?

Hugh Hefner’s _Big Bunny_ appears to have been fully staffed while he owned it. Of course, that was only for about six years (1969-1975):

> **[The Rise and Fall of the Big Bunny: What Happened to Hugh Hefner’s Private Jet](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/hugh-hefners-playboy-jet-big-bunny-inside-rise-fall-1045331/)**
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> The DC-9 was essentially the Playboy Mansion at 35,000 feet: “Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, James Caan — there were always celebrities on board,” says a former Jet Bunny.

> **[See what it was like to fly on the 'Big Bunny,' Hugh Hefner's customized...](https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-inside-the-big-bunny-playboy-jet-2015-11#hefners-personal-quarters-included-an-elliptical-bed-that-could-be-accessed-through-its-own-gateway-it-came-complete-with-silk-and-tasmanian-opossum-fur-covers-the-big-bunny-also-had-a-powder-room-and-showers-for-optimal-comfort-7)**
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> Hugh Hefner only flew on the "Big Bunny" for a few years, but its unique design and decadence left a legacy.

> **[Meet the Prairieville resident who was Hugh Hefner's pilot and helped...](https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/entertainment_life/article_0cba94d2-f69a-11e9-b379-0fd6c34f1c3d.html)**
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> It’s only coincidental that retired pilot Bob Pratt lives near the airstrip once used by drug smuggler Barry Seale. Pratt’s career was on the right side of the law.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1164 "2021-03-22T14:28:36Z")

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Yikes, early 70’s styles were horrific.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1165 "2021-03-22T14:41:59Z")

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I blame cocaine and atmospheric lead poisoning.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1166 "2021-03-22T17:25:02Z")

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Ew, that Tasmanian opossum fur blanket is gross. It’s like you can see their little carcases. Ick.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1167 "2021-03-22T17:52:22Z")

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Cruella de Vil was Hef’s interior decorator.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1168 "2021-03-22T17:56:44Z")

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Those flight attendants look like they got the Robert Palmer “syndrome” [like in the SNL parody _The Palmer Bunch_](https://www.onesnladay.com/2019/05/25/april-22-1989-geena-davis-john-mellencamp-s14-e18/), years before Robert Palmer had his weird dancers with dark vampy eye makeup in his 80’s videos.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1169 "2021-03-22T18:37:53Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> I must imagine that there are only so many FBOs nationwide that can take care of an executive 757. Meanwhile SoFla is just crawling with such services for smaller bizjets like a Citation.

I’m no expert, but just on the basis of potential customers I would imagine the number of FBOs equipped to deal with a 757-class airplane would be approximately zero. Even the Boeing Business Jet, derived from the 737, is rare because it’s a bit extravagant for most businesses – a surprisingly high percentage are owned by self-aggrandizing Trump-like individuals, not corporations accountable to shareholders. Also, most FBOs I’ve come across don’t offer flight crews (they may offer flight training for certain common types of airplanes) but perhaps some do; most are geared to fuel, hangaring, and maintenance.

And if you look at the annual operating costs of something like a 757, the incremental cost of maintaining a set of flight crew on (mostly) salaried standby (rather than the hourly cost of a hypothetical rent-a-crew) would be fairly insignificant, relatively speaking. The total annual operating budget for a BBJ averages just under $3 million, and the combined fixed and variable operating costs for a 757 could easily be twice that amount. Major overhaul of a single engine alone can run to $1 million.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1170 "2021-03-22T21:35:56Z")

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Yeah, but as he keeps saying, he’s a billionaire. A million here, a million there, should be chump change to him.

If he can’t afford to maintain his plane for a _mere_ $10 million a year, he must be POOR and a LOSER. 😉 😇

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1171 "2021-03-22T21:44:18Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’m no expert, but just on the basis of potential customers I would imagine the number of FBOs equipped to deal with a 757-class airplane would be approximately zero.

I wonder if he can contract with a major airline that operates a 757 fleet to do his maintenance and maybe even provide flight crews?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1172 "2021-03-22T22:05:49Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I wonder if he can contract with a major airline that operates a 757 fleet to do his maintenance and maybe even provide flight crews?

They would expect to be paid.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1173 "2021-03-22T22:11:37Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> They would expect to be paid.

Well maybe they did expect to get paid, but that was then. And now, whaddya know, Trump’s plane sits in a back lot rusting away. See, it all follows logically!

I wonder if all the gold plating can be recovered, if nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1174 "2021-03-22T22:29:11Z")

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Really doubt there is any actual gold involved.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1175 "2021-03-22T23:08:33Z")

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It’s not that expensive to have your plane be gold-plated.

> **[Amazon.com: Sargent Art, Gold Liquid Metal Acrylic Paint, 64 oz, 64 Fl Oz (Pack...](https://www.amazon.com/Sargent-Art-Acrylic-64-Ounce-22-2781/dp/B003U45NG4)**
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> Shop Sargent Art at the Amazon Arts, Crafts & Sewing store. Free Shipping on eligible items. Save on everyday low prices.

That’s less than $100 a gallon.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1176 "2021-03-22T23:47:50Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> > [@Senegoid](#):
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> > I wonder if he can contract with a major airline that operates a 757 fleet to do his maintenance and maybe even provide flight crews?
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> They would expect to be paid.

With HIM as a customer? What the fuck would lead them to expect _that_?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1177 "2021-03-22T23:55:12Z")

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I doubt anyone would want that plane. I guess there is a bit of aluminum that could be recovered. I suspect that’s what it will be. A very big re-cycling project.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1178 "2021-03-23T00:13:46Z")

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Sidebar, please.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> FBOs

FBOs?

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**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1179 "2021-03-23T00:15:25Z")

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Fixed Base Operator.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1180 "2021-03-23T00:17:58Z")

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Fixed Base Operator; a business that rents planes, sells fuel, gives flying lessons, repairs aircraft, that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1181 "2021-03-23T00:18:21Z")

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Which is? (not trying to be jerkish; I honestly don’t know what that means. Is this airplane lingo?)

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