# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1242 "2021-03-25T11:33:57Z")
Getting back to Trumpville, John Matze, the lovely gentleman former CEO of Parler, is suing his former company and investors, including the cuddly and adorable Rebekah Mercer, for his fair share of the company. > **[Ousted CEO Matze sues Parler, claims board robbed him of millions](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/ousted-ceo-matze-sues-parler-claims-board-robbed-him-of-millions/)** > > The suit provides a peek into Parler's founding and behind-the-scenes drama. My favorite part: > "While Mercer readily acknowledged and broadly boasted… that Parler was an enterprise worth hundreds of millions of dollars, if not a billion dollars, she and others orchestrated a theft of Matze’s 40 percent ownership, claiming that it could be taken from him **for a mere $3.00,"** Matze claims in the suit. What a buncha mooks. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1243 "2021-03-25T12:40:22Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > I don’t know. To me, “Misty Mage” sounds like what a publisher tells the illustrator to put on the cover of the next Marion Zimmer Bradley novel. Oh wow, she’s coming out with a new novel? What’s she been up to the last couple decades? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1244 "2021-03-25T12:41:30Z")
He’s used to administering “justice”. Not receiving it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1245 "2021-03-25T15:57:37Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > > [@carlb](#): > > > > Not too much more to tell. > > Don’t sell yourself short, that was a great story. It sure was! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1246 "2021-03-25T17:56:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > I don’t know. To me, “Misty Mage” sounds like what a publisher tells the illustrator to put on the cover of the next Marion Zimmer Bradley novel. > > Oh wow, she’s coming out with a new novel? What’s she been up to the last couple decades? Yes, I know. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1247 "2021-03-25T19:57:20Z")
Marion may have been dealing with stuff like this: > **[The Book That Made Me a Feminist Was Written by an Abuser - Electric Literature](https://electricliterature.com/the-book-that-made-me-a-feminist-was-written-by-an-abuser/)** > > "The Mists of Avalon" changed my life—how do I reconcile that with what I now know about its author? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1248 "2021-03-25T20:34:35Z")
She’s with people who talk at the theater. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1249 "2021-03-25T21:01:28Z")
She’s also been dead since 1999. (which was kinda my point in the initial reply.) ETA: > [@Alessan](#): > > She’s with people who talk at the theater. nice reference. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1250 "2021-03-25T21:10:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > She’s also been dead since 1999. Pish posh, I’ve read lots of new material after the author passed away. I think Lovecraft had more published after he died than before. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1251 "2021-03-26T11:33:15Z")
Another shoe drops: > **[Dominion Voting sues Fox News for $1.6 billion over 2020 election claims](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/26/dominion-voting-sues-fox-news-for-1point6-billion-over-2020-election-claims.html)** > > Dominion Voting Systems filed a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, arguing it falsely claimed that the voting company rigged the 2020 election. > Dominion Voting Systems on Friday filed a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, arguing the cable news giant falsely claimed in an effort to boost faltering ratings that the voting company had rigged the 2020 election. > It’s the first defamation suit filed against a media outlet by the voting company, which was a target of misleading, false and bizarre claims spread by President Donald Trump and his allies in the aftermath of Trump’s election loss to Joe Biden… ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1252 "2021-03-26T12:41:51Z")
> [@](#): > > **Surprise! Russia cancels Kentucky aluminum plant after Moscow Mitch fails to throw election** > > With the inevitability of the denouement of a Greek tragedy, or of the sudden abiding compassion of Fox Noise anchors for children on the left bank of the Rio Grande, Russian once-and-future-blacklisted aluminum giant Rusal has pulled the plug on its northeast Kentucky ~~quid pro quo~~ investment. > > The miraculous $65 million investment materialized — I wish I could say days, but it’s hours, really — after Senate ex-Majority Leader, he-who-must-not-be-named Moscow, Mitch McConnell squashed new sanctions on Russia in January 2019. [WP was on it](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-mcconnell-backed-effort-to-lift-russian-sanctions-boosted-a-kentucky-project/2019/08/13/72b26e00-b97c-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html), though it took a few months. > > … > > With a Putinesque smile, Rusal [explains](https://www.wuky.org/post/russian-company-bankrolling-troubled-kentucky-aluminum-plant-suspends-investments#stream/0) it’s suspending its investment in the ~~boondoggle~~ project while it waits for other partners to raise funds. That, of course, has been difficult for a good two years — ever since Kentuckians who saw only Obamacare standing between them and endless weekends visiting friends and family in opioid rehabilitation facilities elected Democrat Andy Beshear governor in 2019, who promptly vowed to recoup the $15 million his predecessor had tossed in the smelting pot. > > So what changed? Could it have been the recent change in Senate leadership on 5 January and Moscow — sorry, Senator — Mitch’s failure to support the Boyar Restoration on 6 January? Someone didn’t deliver something quite recently, in any event. > **[Surprise! Russia cancels Kentucky aluminum plant after Moscow Mitch fails to...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/3/25/2022837/-Surprise-Russia-cancels-Kentucky-aluminum-plant-after-Moscow-Mitch-fails-to-throw-election?utm_campaign=trending)** > > With the inevitability of the denouement of a Greek tragedy, or of the sudden abiding compassion of Fox Noise anchors for children on the left bank of the Rio Grande, Russian once-and-future-blacklisted aluminum giant Rusal has pulled the plug on... ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1253 "2021-03-26T16:39:58Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Dominion Voting Systems filed a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, I don’t think this one is going to fly. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1254 "2021-03-26T17:12:19Z")
i believe it has some teeth. fox kept repeating things they knew were incorrect about dominion. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1255 "2021-03-26T18:54:31Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I don’t think this one is going to fly. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1256 "2021-03-26T19:25:46Z")
They can use the same defense Tucker Carlson used: basically, it’s opinion, therefore covered under 1stA. And besides, what reasonable person would believe it? Dominion may have to settle. I would advise: nothing under $500M. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1257 "2021-03-26T19:58:31Z")
If they promoted the Dominion accusations on just the ‘opinion’ sections I’d agree they have the ‘we are full of shit’ defence. If they repeated those accusations on the so called news segments they may be in a spot of bother. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1258 "2021-03-26T20:10:34Z")
They’re not going to settle. They’ve said the point is to redeem their reputation, not get financial compensation. I’m looking forward to seeing how far this all goes. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1259 "2021-03-26T20:17:18Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > They’ve said the point is to redeem their reputation, not get financial compensation. Of course, that line could be part of the negotiation to get a larger settlement. I am on team “don’t settle”, however. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1260 "2021-03-26T23:38:32Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Why not? Because they don’t say Dominion is guilty. They say "This guys says Dominion is guilty’. And they go down the line. “Trump says Dominion switched votes” “Powell says Dominion stole the election” “Guiliani says Dominion says Dominion is crooked” “Shitty pillow scammer and ‘ex’ crack addict says Dominion is evil” Technically, they are not making statements, just reporting the statements of others. Over and over. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1261 "2021-03-27T02:57:16Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > They say "This guys says Dominion is guilty’. That really isn’t going to make much of a difference if Dominion succeeds on the actual malice argument. If you’re a billion-dollar media enterprise you don’t really get out of a defamation action by saying “_we_ never said it, we just had multiple guests over many weeks saying stuff we knew was wrong.” Of course, the actual malice standard is a very high bar, but from the analyses I’ve seen, I think Dominion has a pretty fair shot of succeeding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=64)