# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1724 "2021-06-02T19:35:42Z")

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It is indeed. God bless America!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1725 "2021-06-02T19:44:45Z")

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Home of the land and the range!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1726 "2021-06-02T21:35:23Z")

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I’m hoping it’s a sign that Trump is slowly fading away from the public consciousness, like a particularly pungent cloud of flatulence in a windowless room.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1727 "2021-06-02T22:19:29Z")

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“From the desk of Donald J. Trump” is reminiscent of “Mr. Burns’ Casino”.

Sex appeal. And a catchy name.

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Great, now I’m thinking of the [British waitress](https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/British_waitress).

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1729 "2021-06-02T23:06:10Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m hoping it’s a sign that Trump is slowly fading away from the public consciousness, like a particularly pungent cloud of flatulence in a windowless room.

I’ve been saying that since we knew Biden had won. Trump’s followers love POWER, and Trump is a loser.

But of course since November 2020 the media have been working to sell the idea that **He’s Still Here.** And they need him to Still be Here because OMFG the _ratings_!!!1!!!

And they’re STILL trying to sell the idea the Trump is a powerful man. They play up the visits to Mar-a-Lago and the deferential verbiage from GOP Senators and Representatives, and hope we’ll all conclude that Trump is BIG BIG BIG.

Well, his waistline may be BIG BIG BIG. But I strongly suspect that some large percentage of the deference still shown to Trump by GOP players is due to their swallowing whole the story pushed by a media desperate for ratings.

He’s NOT still here. He’s NOT the Man with the Power. He still gets some donations—but so do his imitators, and they are hoping he’ll be officially declared irrelevant as soon as possible.

Donald is a sad little sociopath, sweating away the days until he’s indicted and tried. The media will continue working feverishly to make him the Big Bad…but as time goes by they will have to give it up.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1730 "2021-06-02T23:48:44Z")

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This topic (media efforts to keep the news Trumpy as means of goosing ratings) may well deserve its own thread. But I’ll just add: not five minutes ago, CNN’s Erin Burnett told us that George P. Bush has “embraced” (exact quote) Trump, and how can he do that given how his family feels about Trump? And isn’t this a sign of how massive is Trump’s power?!?!?

NO. It isn’t. And I bet “embrace” is an overstatement for whatever it is that George P. Bush said. He’s just announced that he’s running for Texas Attorney General. A report on that:

> [@](#):
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> … … We asked Bush about taking on a fellow Republican. “That’s right. It is not an easy decision. In fact, sometimes it’s frowned upon but the stakes couldn’t be higher."
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> Bush said he decided to get into the race after Attorney General Ken Paxton was accused of using his office to help a wealthy donor. The FBI is now reportedly looking into this. Paxton has denied doing anything wrong.  
> “I just think it’s important that Texans have a different choice,” said Bush.  
> Paxton has a relationship with former President Trump, who Bush said he has spoken to twice.  
> “We’ve had great conversations. You know, I think we’re both focused on making sure we have the right team on the field in 2022 because the democrats are going to spend a lot of money in Texas,” said Bush. …

That seems to be the “embrace”—GP Bush wants to run against a Republican that Trump likes, so Bush called Donald as a courtesy.

But Erin Burnett and many of her colleagues believe they’re helping themselves by selling the “embrace” idea, apparently. In my view they are just strangling their credibility.

And that makes me _genuinely_ sad (no schadenfreude).

> **[George P. Bush Announces Run for Texas Attorney General](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/politics/texas-politics/george-p-bush-announces-run-for-texas-attorney-general/2647611/)**
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> George P. Bush has announced his plans to run for Texas Attorney General against current AG Ken Paxton.

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I remember a quote I remember reading on the bye-and-bye in the run-up to the 2016 elections:

_“Trump represents something of a quandary for the media, especially TV networks. Privately, TV news producers acknowledge that Trump has turbocharged their ratings… Essentially, TV news producers are wondering: “How do we keep getting the great ratings without helping elect the Fourth Reich?”_

I finally found the piece:

[https://globalpossibilities.org/its-too-late-to-turn-off-trump/](https://globalpossibilities.org/its-too-late-to-turn-off-trump/)

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1732 "2021-06-03T14:27:27Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> That seems to be the “embrace”—GP Bush wants to run against a Republican that Trump likes, so Bush called Donald as a courtesy.
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> But Erin Burnett and many of her colleagues believe they’re helping themselves by selling the “embrace” idea, apparently. In my view they are just strangling their credibility.
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> And that makes me _genuinely_ sad (no schadenfreude).

I don’t think you need to feel sad with regards to Burnett’s credibility. I think you need to feel sad with regard to Bush’s dignity:  
[https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1400431775965396999](https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1400431775965396999)  
Twitter post include pictures of the cringeworthy koozie.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1733 "2021-06-03T14:32:04Z")

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The quotes sound like they came from a 6-year-old.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1734 "2021-06-03T14:33:34Z")

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Well, they did, if you’re talking about the guy’s personal level of maturity and political sophistication.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1735 "2021-06-03T14:49:48Z")

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That’s an insult to 6-year olds.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1736 "2021-06-03T18:01:17Z")

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DeJoy of Schadenfreude:

> **[DOJ investigating political fundraising by controversial Postmaster General...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/03/politics/louis-dejoy-campaign-contributions/index.html)**
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> The Justice Department is investigating Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's political fundraising, a person briefed on the probe tells CNN.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1737 "2021-06-03T18:08:24Z")

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This news makes my day! Thanks for posting!

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1738 "2021-06-03T18:17:51Z")

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My pleasure!

ETA: This article contains some fun twitter reactions to the news:

> **['Mail him to DeJail!' Cheers break out after Louis DeJoy falls under FBI...](https://www.rawstory.com/louis-dejoy-fbi/)**
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> The FBI is investigating postmaster general Louis DeJoy, and social media users couldn't be happier.The Donald Trump appointee blamed for snarling Postal Service routes and slowing deliveries during the 2020 election and holiday season is under...

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1739 "2021-06-03T19:00:31Z")

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i know this will bring dejoy to rachel maddow. she was wondering when this would happen.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1740 "2021-06-03T19:13:10Z")

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Drain the swamp.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1741 "2021-06-04T01:03:13Z")

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and it is the first thing dr. maddow mentioned.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1742 "2021-06-04T01:43:29Z")

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Her entire show tonight is an important one, IMO.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1743 "2021-06-04T01:58:37Z")

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Indeed. Wow, some really sick people have been elected. No wonder they want people looking at pizza places and mysterious blood drinkers instead of who is really being elected.

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