# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1864 "2021-06-24T20:22:31Z")
Page 32 prevents Rudy from giving an opinion on the law, which effectively forbids him from discussing a lot of Fox News topics. This won’t help his income. Also, if he has legal retainers… I’m sure there is some deadline/process by which they are refunded? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1865 "2021-06-24T20:29:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Also, if he has legal retainers… I’m sure there is some deadline/process by which they are refunded? I suspect that the “process” is you get another lawyer to sue him, and he gets a real lawyer to defend him while he tries to invoke the First Rule of Acquisition. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1866 "2021-06-24T20:59:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Page 32 prevents Rudy from giving an opinion on the law, which effectively forbids him from discussing a lot of Fox News topics. Can’t they just show a disclaimer that says, “For entertainment purposes only. Not real legal opinions.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1867 "2021-06-24T21:04:54Z")
I am thinking the judge will not be entertained. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1868 "2021-06-24T21:07:37Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Can’t they just show a disclaimer that says, “For entertainment purposes only. Not real legal opinions.” - They should have started using that _years_ ago. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1869 "2021-06-24T21:08:31Z")
That one would say, “Not real news”. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1870 "2021-06-24T23:01:55Z")
I always just assumed that the name Fox was the disclaimer that meant “For entertainment purposes only. Not real news.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1871 "2021-06-25T00:16:43Z")
Here’s the real meat, from p. 27: > [@](#): > > We find that there is evidence of continuing misconduct, the underlying offense is incredibly serious, and **the uncontroverted misconduct in itself will likely result in substantial permanent sanctions at the conclusion of these disciplinary proceedings.** Rudy’s going _down_! ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1872 "2021-06-25T00:27:37Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Don’t state bars work on reciprocity? If you’re licensed in your home state, you get bar privileges in other states, but if your home state pulls your ticket, the others do too? Depends on the state - it’s apparently all over the map and rather confusing to me looking in from the outside. California for example does not extend reciprocity to anyone. Other states will extend reciprocity only to certain other states, not all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1873 "2021-06-25T00:32:30Z")
Reciprocity just means you don’t have to take the bar exam again. You still have to apply for and become licensed in those other states. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1874 "2021-06-25T01:26:16Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > Reciprocity just means you don’t have to take the bar exam again. You still have to apply for and become licensed in those other states… To my glum friend from Texas who had just accepted a job in CA and was studying for her second bar exam in eighteen months, the former seemed far more onerous than the latter 😉 . ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1875 "2021-06-25T01:33:14Z")
Doesn’t Trump still owe him for legal fees? Now Donald has a legitimate reason not to pay him. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1876 "2021-06-25T03:32:58Z")
Yeah, I guess I made it sound like it’s no big deal, when really reciprocity is awesome. But good luck getting licensed in a new state while explaining why you’ve been disbarred in a different state. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1877 "2021-06-25T04:40:36Z")
Giuliani is like if Harvey Birdman took brain damage in a fall and woke up thinking he was Saul Goodman. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1878 "2021-06-25T04:44:21Z")
Posted this in one of the other threads, but it fits just as well here: > **[With Giuliani’s Law License Suspended, Here Are The Other Trump Lawyers Who...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/24/with-giulianis-law-license-suspended-heres-the-other-trump-lawyers-who-may-face-discipline-next/?sh=11e6df7213b3)** > > Rudy Giuliani’s involvement with Trump’s post-election lawsuits resulted in his law license getting suspended—and other Trump allies could be next. ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1879 "2021-06-25T06:00:21Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > …while he tries to invoke the First Rule of Acquisition. This made me laugh and laugh. Schadenfreude indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1880 "2021-06-25T09:09:13Z")
Two things: > [@](#): > > Giuliani has the right to request a hearing to appeal the ruling, though the committee predicted in their ruling the lawyer’s alleged misconduct “will likely result in substantial permanent sanctions at the conclusion of these disciplinary proceedings.” Rudy can (and will) appeal, but I’m guessing that continuing to spout off about election fraud - i.e. the very thing he’s in trouble for - will not help that appeal much. > [@](#): > > Before that, Giuliani and Powell will appear in court Thursday afternoon for a hearing on whether Dominion’s lawsuits against them should be dismissed. Powell and her co-attorneys in Michigan will also [appear](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.122.0_3.pdf) in court on July 6 as the court considers whether the attorneys should be sanctioned. I must admit that I’m deeply intrigued to see how the Detroit suit pans out (not to mention the Dominion suits). Powell getting sanctioned all over the place for blatantly lying to the courts would be schadenfreuderific. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1881 "2021-06-25T16:56:10Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I suspect that the “process” is you get another lawyer to sue him, and he gets a real lawyer to defend him while he tries to invoke the First Rule of Acquisition. He hasn’t got the _lobes_. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1882 "2021-06-25T17:21:46Z")
As soon as next week! > **[Trump Organization Could Face Criminal Charges in D.A. Inquiry (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html)** > > An indictment of the Trump Organization could mark the first criminal charges to emerge from an investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into Donald J. Trump and his business dealings. > The Manhattan district attorney’s office has informed Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that it is considering criminal charges against his family business, the Trump Organization, in connection with fringe benefits the company awarded a top executive, according to several people with knowledge of the matter. > If the case moves ahead, the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., could announce charges against the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer, [Allen H. Weisselberg](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/15/nyregion/trump-weisselberg-vance-investigation.html), as soon as next week, the people said. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1883 "2021-06-25T17:25:48Z")
I had predicted by August. I’m delighted to see they’re ahead of my schedule! What a wonderfully welcome development. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=95)