# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1904 "2021-06-26T03:55:35Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Sidebar please: what are all those white bars on the forearm of his jacket? Service years?

Yep. 10 stripes = 30 years of active service. He is also wearing the Combat Infantry Badge and **Master Parachutist’s Wings** , which means he’s intelligence may be in question. Jumping out of a perfectly functioning aircraft is not the act of a sane person.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1905 "2021-06-26T04:23:45Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Jumping out of a perfectly functioning aircraft is not the act of a sane person.

Eh, I suppose the military thinks it’s important to give them some practice so they’ll know what they’re doing when they have to jump out of an imperfectly functioning aircraft, which is a situation that would definitely get me a little bit flustered.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1906 "2021-06-26T04:46:39Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I suppose the military thinks it’s important to give them some practice so they’ll know what they’re doing

I can see panicked people yelling and fumbling around, a few praying, and one guy calmly putting on his parachute as he blows a bubble.

“I don’t know what y’all are freaking out about, I always leave a plane this way.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1907 "2021-06-26T04:55:56Z")

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“Shut up, Cooper!”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1908 "2021-06-26T05:40:20Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I had predicted by August. I’m delighted to see they’re ahead of my schedule!
> 
> What a wonderfully welcome development.

Welcome, yes, but I keep hearing about impending charges being laid against “The [America-hating fuckstick] _Organization_.” I’m hankering for rumors of charges being brought against the America-hating fuckstick _personally_.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1909 "2021-06-26T05:57:06Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Eh, I suppose the military thinks it’s important to give them some practice so they’ll know what they’re doing when they have to jump out of an imperfectly functioning aircraft

Airborne troops should be jumping out of perfectly functioning planes.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1910 "2021-06-26T05:58:23Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> Airborne troops should be jumping out of perfectly functioning planes.

I agree.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1911 "2021-06-26T11:30:35Z")

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I remember how pissed I was with General Milley when he participated in the clearing of Lafayette Square, but he has certainly redeemed himself. I was so irritated last night with some of the responses to his speech that I had to force myself to quit reading before I threw my laptop at something.

I’m so sick of the phony outrage.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1912 "2021-06-26T11:59:05Z")

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I sent the following text to a compliance director at USAA, who advertises on Carlson’s show:

‘Regardless, USAA should not be advertising on a TV show which specifically insults the US military, especially the sitting joint chiefs of Staff. It strikes at the heart of your corporate mission, to support the troops.’

Talking to other USAA people, they say that previous controversies had the USAA marketing team beg off, saying that since they mass-purchase air time, they have no control over what shows USAA ads appear in.

Which is complete and utter horseshit. USAA spent a half a bil on advertising last year. You don’t spend that sort of money and then just give up discretion over ad placement.

> **[USAA ad spending soars as membership gains shrink](https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/Ad-spending-soars-at-San-Antonio-USAA-16191053.php)**
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> The San Antonio company’s property and casualty insurance businesses spent more a half...

They advertise on Carlson’s show because both USAA’s market, and Carlson’s audience, are military members and their families. This is a conscious decision by USAA to support a white supremacist who is pro-insurrection, and their acknowledgement that many ex, and current, military members agree with Carlson is quite troubling, and their financial support of his views even more so, if I may be allowed an understatement.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1913 "2021-06-26T14:03:50Z")

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Carlson makes me want to spit. I wish I had USAA so I could pull my account.

I know I don’t make much difference in this world of almost 8 billion people, but I’m telling you, if I know you support that piece of shit or the fucking network that pays him millions to spout his hate spewed garbage, I will never give you a cent and I will not continue to bite my tongue about this damn issue.

And I hope Rupert Murdoch rots in hell.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1914 "2021-06-26T14:08:23Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I’ll believe it if it happens.

Agreed. I’m seeing too many instances of “could” and “might.” There was plenty of speculation Trump was going to be led off in handcuffs during his term, but it never happened. What if the judges decide it’s better not to cause riots with their decisions and slap him on the wrist with “You can’t practice real estate management while in office” niggles that confer minor inconveniences instead of actual jail terms?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1915 "2021-06-26T15:21:34Z")

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Argh. I _do_ have USAA and as a bank they have been absolutely stellar. To say I’m deeply disappointed about their advertising choices would be an understatement.

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1916 "2021-06-26T17:47:44Z")

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That was great.

OT, I didn’t know Coast Guard people are called “guardians.” That’s pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1917 "2021-06-26T18:06:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I’ll believe it if it happens.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Agreed. I’m seeing too many instances of “could” and “might.”

You don’t hire Mark Pomerance away from his prestigious law firm to handle the cases if you’re just fucking around.

What’s coming next week is more about Weisselberg than Trump. They want him bad to narrate their case. But they wouldn’t have telegraphed their punch if they weren’t certain they had a strong case.

Let’s not disregard the unintended consequences of this move: Loans may be called in on Trump and/or unavailable; his kids may also suffer.

Since the grand jury is a sitting grand jury for at least the next 6 months, this action next week is probably just for openers.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’m hankering for rumors of charges being brought against the America-hating fuckstick _personally_ .

I share this hankering with you, but in all sad candor, I think it’s unlikely. First because of the precedent it sets to incarcerate an American president (which which I disagree, I think people who commit big crimes should go to prison, period). Second because they don’t want to martyr him and be accused of starting a second civil war with his kooky base.

I do think that if Trump and his family are destroyed financially, it will be almost as bad for them as if they were in prison. Which in my view means, not bad enough.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1918 "2021-06-26T18:29:54Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> They may not be able to get to trump without his accountant, but a lot of damage can be done to his standard of living. Trump and his 3 oldest will be feeling quite the squeeze next week.

If it’s not likely Trump and his sprogs will ever face prison time I guess I’ll have to settle thinking of them living in a Florida single-wide after their house of cards collapses.

All living in the same one helps a lot.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1919 "2021-06-26T19:16:07Z")

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I saw in one article a while ago that Javanka reported _income_ of upwards of $100 million in the last year of reporting as public servants. I don’t think they’ll be doing any double-wide shopping.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1920 "2021-06-26T19:27:17Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> One thing I especially appreciate about when this news broke: It’s the day before the evil, corrupt twit takes his shakedown show back on the road in Ohio. Might could maybe throw him off his grifting game.

Doubt it. I’m willing to bet this gives him extra push - “See? It’s another witch hunt! They’re making up minor charges to silence us!”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1921 "2021-06-26T20:56:30Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> “Shut up, Cooper!”

ISWYDT 😃

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1922 "2021-06-27T00:03:21Z")

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Great funny comment section about the rally over at

> **[Trump Kicks Off His Revenge Tour](https://politicalwire.com/2021/06/26/trump-kicks-off-his-revenge-tour/#disqus_thread)**
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> “Donald Trump on Saturday will kick off his revenge tour against Republicans who defied him in the aftermath of the 2020 election and January 6 insurrection, hoping to convince his supporters to fire Ohio Rep. Anthony Gonzalez,” CNN reports.“The...

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1923 "2021-06-27T00:21:32Z")

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> [@Paintcharge](#):
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> … I didn’t know Coast Guard people are called “guardians.” That’s pretty cool.

No doubt they prefer that to “coasters.”

Actually, wikipedia says:

> [@](#):
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> In 2008, the term “Guardian” was introduced as an alternative but was later dropped. Admiral Robert J. Papp Jr. stated that it was his belief that no Commandant had the authority to change what members of the Coast Guard are called as the term Coast Guardsman is found in Title 14 USC which established the Coast Guard in 1915.

Personnel of the US Space Force ARE called Guardians, btw. “Forcers” had some odd connotations, apparently.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> I sent the following text to a compliance director at USAA, who advertises on Carlson’s show:
> 
> ‘Regardless, USAA should not be advertising on a TV show which specifically insults the US military, especially the sitting joint chiefs of Staff. It strikes at the heart of your corporate mission, to support the troops.’
> 
> Talking to other USAA people, they say that previous controversies had the USAA marketing team beg off, saying that since they mass-purchase air time, they have no control over what shows USAA ads appear in.  
> …

Thank you for doing that. Today I saw on Twitter evidence that a number of other people are communicating their displeasure at the choice to underwrite Tucker Carlson. For example:

> <https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/1408755588704636929>

In recent days I’ve also seen tweets pointing out—and questioning—the ubiquity of FoxNews on US military base televisions (in mess halls, etc.).

Here’s hoping the campaign continues. As I’ve said more than once, it surely would be sad for the Murdochs if there were a groundswell of cable customers demanding that FoxNews no longer get the benefit of being subsidized by every viewer (as part of basic packages). It would be so sad for them if FoxNews became an “opt-in” channel, paid for only by those who actually wanted it.

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