# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537 "2020-11-14T00:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1964 "2021-06-29T20:36:38Z")
A useful reminder that the corruption of the Trump Administration began on Day One, pervaded all corners of the Administration, and was eagerly abetted by some in corporate America – the [Washington Post has an article (paywall)](https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/sonny-perdue-adm-land-deal/?itid=hp-top-table-main) about how a company owned by Trump’s Secretary of Agriculture was able to purchase a property from Archer-Daniels-Midland for a fraction of its estimated value. Just weeks after Sonny Purdue was nominated, ADM sold a processing plant to his company for $250,000 – a plant that ADM had paid $5.5 million for six years earlier. None of this was disclosed in his confirmation hearing. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1965 "2021-06-29T20:36:39Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > NPR link contains a youtube video of Milley’s statement. Epic, and worth watching. He definitely got under Matt Gaetz’s skin. Plus when you’re right, you’re right. Tangent #2: it pisses me off how the RW media (Fox, specifically) has turned “woke” into an insult, ie; a chyron that said “General goes woke before Congress” (or words to that effect). ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1966 "2021-06-29T20:42:30Z")
I like how they want me to believe that all that land, with all those improvements and buildings, is worth a little more than half what my 2000 sq. ft. home on .27 acres is worth. 🤔 Sure; that’s completely reasonable and believable. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1967 "2021-06-29T21:15:14Z")
Everything about Fox “News” pisses me off. They are a pox on our society – as well as, sadly, a reflection of it. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1968 "2021-06-29T22:32:23Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > They are a pox on our society They figured out that hate and fear sells very well. LOTS of customers. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1969 "2021-06-29T22:42:22Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > They figured out that hate and fear sells very well. LOTS of customers. Yes, they’re basically predators. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1970 "2021-06-29T23:31:52Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > We’ve all heard of Egyptian cotton, right? Well…Lindell says his cotton comes from an area “between the Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River.” In other words: Egypt. But he doesn’t want to use the word, for some reason. Bastard. He _could_ be using good ol’ American-grown Pima cotton instead of that furrin stuff. Developed by the Goodyear Co. for use in tire cords a hundred years ago, like Egyptian cotton it is long staple and gives a similar luxurious feel to sheets and clothing. As the link below mentions, not all cotton from Egypt is Egyptian cotton in the usual sense – the long staple variety. [https://www.pimacott.com/blog/egyptian-cotton-vs-pima-cotton-whats-the-difference](https://www.pimacott.com/blog/egyptian-cotton-vs-pima-cotton-whats-the-difference) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1971 "2021-06-30T00:01:44Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > We’ve all heard of Egyptian cotton, right? Well…Lindell says his cotton comes from an area “between the Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River.” **In other words: Egypt.** But he doesn’t want to use the word, for some reason. - > > Bastard. He _could_ be using good ol’ American-grown Pima cotton instead of that furrin stuff. Developed by the Goodyear Co. for use in tire cords a hundred years ago, like Egyptian cotton it is long staple and gives a similar luxurious feel to sheets and clothing. As the link below mentions, not all cotton from Egypt is Egyptian cotton in the usual sense – the long staple variety. > > [Egyptian Cotton vs. Pima Cotton: What’s the Difference? | PimaCott](https://www.pimacott.com/blog/egyptian-cotton-vs-pima-cotton-whats-the-difference) Not only could he be using American textiles; and not only could part of his deception be that he’s implying he’s using the long-staple cotton variety without outright saying so----but his geographical attempt-to-bamboozle, rather pointedly, gives only **three** boundaries. “Between the Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River” could be anywhere from the Nile eastward (e.g. Libya, Tunisia, Algeria etc.). All would be north of the Sahara, south of the Mediterranean, and on-one-side of the Nile. But there we have Mike Lindell. Why be honest when there’s an opportunity to be deceptive? (my emphasis in the first quoted post) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1972 "2021-06-30T00:07:44Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > … That’s why these first-hand witnesses are so important. They’re the ones who can say, “No, he never put it in writing, but he told me what to do. Nothing ever happened without Donald’s knowledge and personal direction. Nothing.” One witness after another testifies to this, and there you go. > > Take all that testimony together with the documents that provide indisputable proof of the fraud, and… well, Trump has an uphill row to hoe. … I hope so. A few millions of us hope so, in all likelihood. It’s been horrifying living in a world in which blatant dishonesty leads to no substantial negative consequences. The human sense of justice has been on life-support for too many years, now. \ > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > … IIRC, when Michael “I’ll take a bullet for Mr. Trump” Cohen flipped, it had to do with the fact that his wife had affixed her signature to the paperwork on at least one shady transaction and the prosecutors were threatening to go after her. Yes, we have to hope there are analogous situations for Weisselberg, Calamari, et al. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1973 "2021-06-30T00:18:19Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Not only could he be using American textiles; and not only could part of his deception be that he’s implying he’s using the long-staple cotton variety without outright saying so----but his geographical attempt-to-bamboozle, rather pointedly, gives only **three** boundaries. > > “Between the Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River” could be anywhere from the Nile eastward (e.g. Libya, Tunisia, Algeria etc.). All would be north of the Sahara, south of the Mediterranean, and on-one-side of the Nile. > > But there we have Mike Lindell. Why be honest when there’s an opportunity to be deceptive? Hmmm. If you won’t let a little ol’ ocean stop you, keep going west and you’ll start running into Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas, all cotton growing areas but it’s the ordinary short staple stuff. Takes two years to develop shredded urethane foam filling for his pillows, has irrefutable proof that the election was stolen but declines to show it to T\*\*\*\*'s crack team of lawyers – or anybody else, is a fan of oleandrin to cure COVID. I’m detecting a pattern here. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1974 "2021-06-30T00:22:00Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Hmmm. If you won’t let a little ol’ ocean stop you, keep going west and you’ll start running into Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas, all cotton growing areas but it’s the ordinary short staple stuff. True, except for the northerly and southerly borders being wrong. Though there IS “Saharan dust” in the air as far as Florida for parts of the spring and summer, so maybe that one would slide. But, yeah. Lindell is pretty consistently deplorable. You can _count_ on the guy! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1975 "2021-06-30T00:29:16Z")
You’re saying he wouldn’t do a little noodge north or south as required? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1976 "2021-06-30T01:17:05Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Off topic tangent: Lindell is running commercials now for sheets that he calls “Giza Dreams”. We’ve all heard of Egyptian cotton, right? Well…Lindell says his cotton comes from an area “between the Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Nile River.” In other words: Egypt. But he doesn’t want to use the word, for some reason. “Egyptian Cotton” [is trademarked](https://www.cottonegyptassociation.com/about-egyptian-cotton/cotton-egypt-association/) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1977 "2021-06-30T02:08:46Z")
I think we have our answer. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1978 "2021-06-30T03:01:07Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s been horrifying living in a world in which blatant dishonesty leads to no substantial negative consequences. The human sense of justice has been on life-support for too many years, now. At what point in human history was justice better? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1979 "2021-06-30T14:14:53Z")
It’s Weisselberg: > ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1980 "2021-06-30T14:55:13Z")
What I find interesting is this: [![](https://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/uploads/default/original/4X/c/d/6/cd6ebee7dc61de9be7083d0418c796533bb6b0fd.png) ](https://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/uploads/default/original/4X/c/d/6/cd6ebee7dc61de9be7083d0418c796533bb6b0fd.png) Cohen’s assertions about other documentation aside, it sounds like Goldman is saying that that he knows that evidence of criminal activity exists but as long as everyone stays quiet Trump will skate. Not exactly a claim of innocence. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1981 "2021-06-30T15:21:56Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I think we have our answer. Pretty much any time you see the properties of an advertised product slyly alluded to, nudge nudge wink, rather than just straight out making a claim, they’re skirting an intellectual property issue. [See here re the “Super Bowl” trademark.](https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/why-do-ads-say-the-big-game-instead-the-super-bowl.htm) ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1982 "2021-06-30T15:59:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Trump sends out one of his missives, targeting two local GOP nobodies. > > One responds in a letter which will be used in textbooks as a perfect example of self-inflicted Stockholm syndrome: His tweet about this letter now has a more established, and still terrible, ratio. 525 replies, 34 retweets (32 quote tweets) and **6** likes. My reply has ten times the likes. No one is coming to this guy’s defense. > ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537/1983 "2021-06-30T16:42:42Z")
> [@naita](#): > > No one is coming to this guy’s defense. He is insufficiently loyal to Dear Leader Trump. I imagine he will now be tied to the front of the (metaphorical) cannon for the traditional farewell ceremony. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-1/925537.md?page=100)