# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 105
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2081 "2023-09-27T15:00:24Z")
He destroyed his business, his credibility, and his name. He couldn’t run a used car lot now. I hope he managed to build some office skills; maybe some company can take him on as a mid-level employee. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2082 "2023-09-27T15:33:54Z")
He took up a brand of Christianity that says it was all right to lie through your teeth to get your desired result. Meaning Republican Christianity. Meaning self delusion and bullshit. Did he ever pay the guy who proved his ’ election data was proof of stealing’ was bullshit. Lindell offered a cash prize if someone could debunk it. And a Republican, who voted for Trump twice, did just that. Proved that not only was it not data from the 2020 election, it was not election data at all. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2083 "2023-09-27T15:35:10Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Did he ever pay the guy who proved his ’ election data was proof of stealing’ was bullshit. The guy successfully sued for the amount, no idea if he’s managed to collect on the judgement yet. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2084 "2023-09-27T15:37:18Z")
It sounds like Mike tried to put it on his Amex card. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2085 "2023-09-27T15:37:23Z")
Still fighting it out in court. I don’t see any updates more recent than this. > **[Man who debunked Mike Lindell’s ‘blatantly bogus’ data wants his $5m](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/25/mike-lindell-mypillow-electrion-data-robert-zeidman)** > > MyPillow chief promised to pay to anyone who could disprove his ‘election fraud’ data – but Robert Zeidman is still waiting ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2086 "2023-09-27T15:44:46Z")
I swear I saw that he’d won. Serves me right for not checking before I posted. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2087 "2023-09-27T15:48:41Z")
NO sympathy for Lindell here. He is a person that took his own profitable (yet bullshit) business, and all of his employees, and threw it over a cliff. If I took a sledge hammer to my car, would my insurance company give me sympathy because I followed some tweeting moron that told me to do it? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2088 "2023-09-27T15:54:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I swear I saw that he’d won. He has won, legally, more than once. But Lindell is refusing to cooperate. If I were him, I’d pursue a lien on the pillow company. “Doors are locked until you write me a check.” ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2089 "2023-09-27T18:29:28Z")
Doors are locked until your check _clears._ ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2090 "2023-09-27T18:58:56Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > A lot of people are annoyed about how long the trials take. I think it’s actually a feature since it stretches out the misery of the orange one and lets us enjoy the sight of him twisting in the wind for a lot longer. It’s like a monthly schadenfreude subscription Agree entirely with Toad! If it’s gonna take a long, long time to to put trump under The jail, then the day-by-day anticipation (for him!) is the next best thing. There might have been a time where he just shoved all his looming probs into his “delay, delay, de…” container that he carries in his brain, you know, the one in his ass, but give us a break! SOME of this must be penetrating! I enjoy the likelihood that some large part of his day is ruined thinking and talking about the corner he’s in. Does he get any peace the rest of the time? Maybe, but I just know this crap tainting that peace, a little at a time. Dan ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2091 "2023-09-27T21:00:17Z")
> **[Gift Article: The End of Trump Inc.](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/judge-rules-trumps-business-empire-committed-fraud/675466/?gift=hzomlMR2dBLPzkPdeme4aPSjE9_MpVtKlI_A5JvLjS4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > The courts are finally catching up to a man who has long behaved as though there would never be any consequences for his deceptions. [Gift link] The concluding two paragraphs: > The greatest blow to Trump may be reputational and psychological. He has claimed that the case against him is political persecution, and some of his supporters will find that compelling, but being found to be a fraud is no more an advantage than being indicted is. Because Trump has gotten away with this way of operating for decades, his fantasy world came to seem almost real. The idea that a judge might actually punish him seemed remote—both to Trump and to his detractors. > > Though the civil case in New York has no direct connection to Trump’s other legal troubles, Engoron’s ruling suggests that the courts are now catching up to a man who has long behaved as though there would never be any consequences for his deceptions. Trump has tried to convince Americans that he won more votes than Joe Biden, that the 2020 election was stolen from him, that he had every right to abscond with classified documents and obstruct the federal government from recovering them, and that he was the greatest president in American history. This is a fantasy world, but the real world has ways of intruding on it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2092 "2023-09-27T23:37:55Z")
Trump has so many legal actions pending against him now, hardly a day goes by without something hitting his fan, giving the appearance of increased momentum. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2093 "2023-09-28T00:05:47Z")
yes - imagine his daily life … Hello, Mr. Trump we got legal news … court XYZ ruled abc… That’s good news for me? …right??? Mr. Trump lemme come back to you in a minute - I got a call on the other line … ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2094 "2023-09-28T01:40:01Z")
He is big mad today. Nothing gets him going like saying he is not as rich as he wants everyone to think. He ranted all day about the NY case and, of course, has to say things he thinks make him look good. They don’t. > [@](#): > > Additionally, there is a powerful Disclaimer Clause on the first pages of the Financial Statements it states that nothing in the financial statement should be accepted as fact! Looks like someone took your advice and decided to do their own research. Oops. > [@](#): > > I am worth billions more than my very conservatively stated financial statements, Sounds like the IRS should do a little of their own research, too. > [@](#): > > I have had very unfair judges since entering politics, So you faced a lot of judges before you went into politics? I wonder why that might be. Most people who aren’t lying, cheating scumbags never deal with judges ever. > [@](#): > > Mar-a-Lago is the most spectacular parcel of real estate in Palm Beach, and perhaps all of Florida [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/a1DzdYz.gif "Imgur: The magic of the Internet") ](https://imgur.com/a1DzdYz) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2095 "2023-09-28T01:42:35Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Additionally, there is a powerful Disclaimer Clause on the first pages of the Financial Statements it states that nothing in the financial statement should be accepted as fact! ‘I said I was ~~lying~~ submitting alternative facts! It’s right there in the contract! It’s not _my_ fault people believed what I said!’ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2096 "2023-09-28T02:39:26Z")
[This is a very fun read. Highlights are:](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-defendant-wanted-arrest-194513273.html) > **Jan. 6 defendant who wanted to arrest ‘the traitors’ to ‘protect the Capitol’ is sentenced to 4 years** & > A conspiracy theorist convicted of felony Capitol riot charges told a federal judge at his sentencing Tuesday that he wanted to “protect the Capitol” by “arresting the traitors” on Jan. 6 before he was sentenced to more than four years in prison. > > [Ed Badalian](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-defendant-said-followed-trumps-marching-orders-wanted-arrest-bid-rcna77947), of California, said at his sentencing Tuesday that he was “frustrated” that officers protecting the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, “did not join us in arresting the traitors,” referring to members of Congress who did not overturn the 2020 presidential election in Donald Trump’s behalf. & > A defiant Badalian repeatedly interrupted U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson on Tuesday, to the point that she remarked it was “tempting” to lock him up for the full decade prosecutors requested. Ultimately, she sentenced him to 51 months in federal prison, saying such a sentence would be more in line with what other defendants convicted of similar conduct received. & > “What you attacked was the Constitution,” Jackson said, “you were attacking the very foundation of the nation itself.” > > “You are a legend in your own mind,” she told Badalian. “A hero in your own head.” & > As Badalian removed his suit jacket, his tie, his belt and his shoelaces under the close watch of two marshals, he proclaimed that “this is what you get for defending the Capitol building” and questioned the loyalty of one of the law enforcement officers taking him into custody. > > “How do you feel about this?” he asked. “You feel like this is right?” > > Just before he was handcuffed and led out of the courtroom, Badalian told the marshal that he had the duty to resist unconstitutional orders. As I said, it’s a _fun_ read! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2097 "2023-09-28T03:48:26Z")
“Nothing… should be accepted as fact” on Trump’s forms? Then why file them at all? Just submit a remaindered copy of _The Art of the Deal_ and head for the golf course, man. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2098 "2023-09-28T03:52:57Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > “Nothing… should be accepted as fact” on Trump’s forms? And what lousy accountant, let alone an actual CPA, would publish such a statement? Aren’t finanial reports legal documents? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2099 "2023-09-28T04:41:09Z")
Different types of financial statements carry different weights of reliability, and are used for different purposes. [Here’s a rundown](https://www.grfcpa.com/resource/audit-review-and-compilation/) of the differences between financial statements that are audited, reviewed, or compiled. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2100 "2023-09-28T13:56:53Z")
I had a nice schadenfreudey thought regarding the fraud finding on trump org and the revoking of his business license. So far, none of his legal troubles have seemed to make one small dent in trump’s race to get reelected: not even the Jan. 6 insurrection. he _incited a revolt against the government_, fer chrissake, but nothing seems to be able to slow down the runaway trump train. It hasn’t put a damper on his followers; if anything he keeps rising in the polls. So the Repub party continues to enable him. And it seems like, even if he’s convicted of something substantial, he could still run from prison, or more likely tethered to Mar-a Lago, and possibly even win. 14th Amendment? Pshaw. Who’s going to have the courage to execute that? But this fraud thing, and the subsequent threatened collapse of his business empire, might really hit him where he lives. His core image, facade that it is, is built on the myth that he is a billionaire genius businessman. I’m wondering if it’s possible that the fraud finding might be the one thing to convince him to drop out of the race so he can focus on trying to rebuild the tattered remains of his business. Probably not, but a doper can hope. Schadenfraud? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=104) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=106)