# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2281 "2023-10-05T21:13:18Z")

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> [@Kelby2](#):
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> He bought lunch for members of the jury.

ISWYDT! 🤣

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2282 "2023-10-05T21:21:12Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-places-lien-on-rudy-giuliani-s-4-5-million-penthouse-after-revealing-he-owes-550k-in-unpaid-taxes/ar-AA1hKYb1](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-places-lien-on-rudy-giuliani-s-4-5-million-penthouse-after-revealing-he-owes-550k-in-unpaid-taxes/ar-AA1hKYb1)

Since the preview isn’t working, the IRS placed a lien on Rudy’s home for unpaid taxes.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2283 "2023-10-05T21:25:58Z")

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Given his food paranoia, I could imagine him regularly ordering 8 or 10 burgers and then choosing one of them that looks the best and throwing the rest away so that the poisoner doesn’t know which burger he will take.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > She is from New Jersey, and I suppose she’d heard Trump’s praises since before Trump was even in politics.
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> To me it is just the opposite. Being from NJ and the entire NYC Metro area in general means you knew what kind of asshole and snake oil salesman Trump was before 2016. I was technically a Republican up until 2008\*. I knew what Trump was. I had heard all the stories of his screwing over contractors and tricking investors. I heard him talk. That should have been plenty to know not to support him.

A good portion of my growing up years were in the Tri-State Area of Northern Virginia, DC, and Maryland. Even as a young teenager, I was fully aware of all of that about Tan the Conman. I’m still shocked my late mother went, literally overnight, from calling him a lying bastard to supporting him for the presidency.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I don’t excuse anyone who continued to support him after his birtherism bullshit. That right there was mega-racism on full display.
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> There’s something wrong with anyone who could overlook it and continue to believe he was a good or viable choice to lead our nation.

They believe that because they believe the birtherism nonsense also. Thus he’s just like them and they’re sure they know how to run the country: put someone just like them at the president’s desk.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I’m sure Biden is a fairly typical type as politicians used to be, he finds being in power somewhat satisfying, he pays lip service sometimes to things he may not actually believe in, he hides things from the public that are “better for them not to know” and so on.

I’m sorry, but I don’t find this assertion credible, specifically the bit about “pays lip service sometimes to things he may not actually believe in” and “he hides things from the public”. Really, this is just a rewording of “all politicians are alike”. Nope, they’re not. Some are outright scum. Trump and his supporters are absolute proof of that.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Also add in his weird quirks, where he hates anyone seeing him eat,

Given how he drinks bottled water, that’s probably the only rational choice he’s managed to make in years.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2285 "2023-10-05T23:04:00Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Really, this is just a rewording of “all politicians are alike”.

That was exactly my point, except in the past tense, because this is no longer true. Biden is (probably) a normal, old-line politician, with (in my opinion) mostly good points but most likely not perfect. Trump is a thug and criminal, and as every honest person has already noted, completely off the “normal” chart, while attempting to make a new normal.

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Have you seen the size of his McD’s bags? I had no idea they came this large! Even Fox News was throwing shade on him about this.

While I’m not exactly proud of this fact, I’ve had Doordash deliver McDonald’s in the past. It always comes in those bags, no matter the quantity of items. I’ve had two egg Mcmuffins delivered in one of those bags.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2287 "2023-10-06T01:05:33Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> the poisoner doesn’t know which burger he will take.

Like Livia in _I, Claudius_, just poison them all.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2288 "2023-10-06T03:30:48Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> the poisoner doesn’t know which burger he will take.

Time to build up an immunity to Iocaine Powder Ketchup.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2289 "2023-10-06T04:59:10Z")

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If I had a dream acting role it would have been Livia. And to be able to rub shoulders with Brian Blessed, Derek Jacobi, John Hurt, Patrick Stewart, George Baker, John Rhys Meyers, and so many more.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2290 "2023-10-06T06:48:08Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> While I’m not exactly proud of this fact, I’ve had Doordash deliver McDonald’s in the past.

Yes, I think when we were in quarantine with Covid, we had one Doordash of McDonald’s because my daughter loves it (she was 8). I do believe they came in those bags too.

It’s not that we don’t get it ever, but the closest McD’s is a mile away so it’s silly to get it delivered.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2291 "2023-10-06T07:06:45Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> As Sinclair Lewis once noted, it’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on his not understanding it.

Nitpick FTR, that was said by Upton Sinclair.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2292 "2023-10-06T09:48:32Z")

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I mean, I’d rather shake their hands but you do you.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2293 "2023-10-06T10:42:33Z")

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Sian Philips, who played Livia, was married to Peter O’Toole for 20 years.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2294 "2023-10-06T11:54:51Z")

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Mike Lindell – Pillow Man! – is broke and his lawyers are leaving

> **[A fool and his money are soon parted - Mike Lindell says "All of it is gone"...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/10/5/2197641/-A-fool-and-his-money-are-soon-parted-Mike-Pillowman-Lindell-says-All-of-it-is-gone?utm_campaign=trending)**
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> The defense attorneys representing Mike Lindell and MyPillow in the defamation lawsuits filed by Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems have filed a motion to withdraw from representing the election denier. They claim the pillowman has stiffed them...

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2295 "2023-10-06T13:16:57Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > according to Cassidy Hutchinson (who’s still gonna vote for him, but oh well).
> 
> WTF? Really? I don’t understand people. I really don’t.

Yeah, I find this really hard to process.

**Cassidy Hutchinson:** trump is the greatest threat to our democracy.

So, who do you think you’d vote for in a second Biden - trump election?

**Cassidy Hutchinson:** trump.

WT everloving F?

[https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/09/26/the-lead-cassidy-hutchinson-part-1.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/09/26/the-lead-cassidy-hutchinson-part-1.cnn)

ETA:

I looked this up, and according to this interview, she said she would _ **not** _ vote for him:

> I would not vote for Donald Trump in 2024. But I also do not want to sit here and catastrophize the scenario where he is actually the Republican nominee.

> **[Cassidy Hutchinson discusses what she saw and experienced in the Trump White...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/cassidy-hutchinson-discusses-what-she-saw-and-experienced-in-the-trump-white-house)**
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> Cassidy Hutchinson made history last summer delivering explosive testimony before the January 6 committee. As a top aide to President Trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows, Hutchinson had a front-row seat to the final months of the Trump White House....

She also said it to CBS:

> As for 2024, Hutchinson said she wouldn’t vote for Donald Trump. “He is dangerous for the country,” she told CBS.

[https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/24/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-interview-testimony-book/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/24/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-interview-testimony-book/index.html)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2296 "2023-10-06T13:38:17Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> While I’m not exactly proud of this fact, I’ve had Doordash deliver McDonald’s in the past. It always comes in those bags, no matter the quantity of items. I’ve had two egg Mcmuffins delivered in one of those bags.

I see 5-6 of those bags in that picture and they look fairly full. Huge McDonald’s order indeed.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2297 "2023-10-06T14:01:03Z")

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How many secret service people does he have with him, I wonder. Maybe it’s not too much food if someone (not him, probably) is feeding his secret service and his attorneys.

Maybe I shouldn’t worry so much about the grandkids eating McDonalds.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2298 "2023-10-06T15:22:23Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I looked this up, and according to this interview, she said she would _ **not** _ vote for him:

LR already noted earlier that the claim that Hutchinson would vote for Trump again was a mistake.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2299 "2023-10-06T15:30:18Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> LR already noted earlier that the claim that Hutchinson would vote for Trump again was a mistake.

Ah, I did skim ahead to see if there had been any status change on that before I posted, but I skimmed right over LR’s correction.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2300 "2023-10-06T15:44:41Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Mike Lindell – Pillow Man! – is broke and his lawyers are leaving

Should not be a problem – the Orange Shit-Stain has always bailed out his loyal supporters, and I’m sure the Orange Shit-Stain will generously support Pillow Guy.

My only concern is, in the meantime, where can I buy uncomfortable lumpy pillows if I should need any?

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