# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 118
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2341 "2023-10-07T23:24:16Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Real tomato ketchup? (Cousin Eddie voice) “Oh, nothin’ but the best, Clark!” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2342 "2023-10-07T23:44:10Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Real tomato ketchup? Ketchup in those little, bitty dishes instead of packets. Gold-colored, of course. [![](https://i.etsystatic.com/17701394/r/il/3f3070/2992442548/il_570xN.2992442548_64ta.jpg) ](https://i.etsystatic.com/17701394/r/il/3f3070/2992442548/il_570xN.2992442548_64ta.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2343 "2023-10-08T03:01:58Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Ketchup in those little, bitty dishes instead of packets. Ooooh… That would make a satisfying clang against the wall ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2344 "2023-10-08T03:10:40Z")
> [@solost](#): > > “But I also do not want to sit here and catastrophize the scenario where he is actually the Republican nominee”. > > Not sure what the heck that even means. Possibly she thinks there’s no way the rest of the American electorate could be as stupid as she was in 2016? It wouldn’t be a catastrophe if Trump were to lose in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2345 "2023-10-08T03:20:01Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I do wonder what his $100,000 dinners are like. Sesame seeds on the bun? Real tomato ketchup? I imagine it’s something like this: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jifrVPhDkPA/maxresdefault.jpg "Kingsman The Secret Service McDonald's") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifrVPhDkPA) The scary part? That movie came out in 2014, well before Trump’s weird-ass White House banquets. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2346 "2023-10-08T03:23:14Z")
> [@solost](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > However that in itself is some pretty scary prevaricating on Hutchinson’s part. > > > > If trump is in her opinion the greatest threat to democracy, then how is his being the R nominee something less than catastrophic? > > I know, I didn’t get that either. She certainly wasn’t prevaricating when she called trump “the greatest threat to Democracy”. Why would she prevaricate by qualifying her statement that she wouldn’t vote for trump with the addendum “But I also do not want to sit here and catastrophize the scenario where he is actually the Republican nominee”. > > Not sure what the heck that even means. My guess is pretty much the same as yours; she got nervous after having put the “trump is the greatest threat to Democracy” line on record, and was trying to backtrack a little to not rile up the mega MAGA crazies against her too much. I disagree (although tbf I don’t know any more details about Hutchinson’s statements or views than either of you). I read that (possibly clumsily expressed) statement as meaning “I don’t want to catastrophize—i.e., pessimistically obsess about the worst possibilities for—the situation by assuming the scenario where Trump is the Republican nominee.” IOW, in my reading, Hutchinson feels that at present it is “catastrophizing” to focus on the hypothetical worst-case scenario where Trump actually is the next Republican nominee and voters have to decide whether or not to vote for him. Because she considers it very possible—and, clearly, desirable—that he won’t get the nomination in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2347 "2023-10-08T03:40:29Z")
He asked the White House chefs to replicate the McDonalds menu. He wasn’t satisfied with their efforts, so he made his body man Keith Schiller go to McDonalds and pick up food for him. > **[Trump Asked White House Kitchen Staff to Make McDonald's Menu Items](https://www.eater.com/2017/11/7/16618948/trump-mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-keith-schiller)** > > The POTUS really likes his Quarter Pounder and fried apple pie ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2348 "2023-10-08T04:09:34Z")
Perhaps I’m naive, but I think you’re being a bit unfair to Hutchinson. I doubt she’ll work in politics again. Even if the the pubs get their shit together, it’s unlikely any of them would hire her. Pols will all value loyalty to _them_ whether or not they wanted trump to fall; I doubt that she is ignorant of this fact. Possibly she genuinely believes in traditional republican ideas. Hopefully, after all she’s seen and experienced she’ll move past that too. It’s ludicrous to think that maga will give her a pass for saying she’s still a republican, after saying anything remotely negative about trump. She may have been a bit young and naive when she began this road, but she’s learned a lot about trump and his fans. She’s been in hiding since j6, I doubt she, at this point, wants or believes she’s going to get maga’s forgiveness or support. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2349 "2023-10-08T04:13:24Z")
McDonald’s has not deep fried pies since 1992. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2350 "2023-10-08T04:36:49Z")
That is correct. > **[McDonald's Fried Apple Pies?](https://burgerbeast.com/mcdonalds-fried-apple-pie/)** > > Where happened to the McDonald's fried apple pies? The short answer is that McDonald's switched their fried apple pies for baked ones in 1992. What’s funny is I never knew this. As a kid I remember hating the apple pies at McD’s. Eventually a girlfriend forced me to try one and I thought it was delicious. But that would have been after the switch. So I suppose I must have hated the fried ones and like the baked ones. I didn’t know there was a difference, I just thought my tastes had changed. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2351 "2023-10-08T04:52:22Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > What’s funny is I never knew this. It’s understandable. I think the crispy texture of the pastry is deliberately made to resemble fried pastry. Probably by having a high enough oil content that it might as well be fried. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2352 "2023-10-08T04:58:27Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > McDonald’s has not deep fried pies since 1992. Damn, and here I was, thinking, “The US still fries them? ROADTRIP!” The baked ones just don’t have the same “Oh, I know this is unhealthy, but my god it’s good!” quality to them. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2353 "2023-10-08T07:53:43Z")
[**Rioter who attacked Capitol with tomahawk and threw makeshift weapons at police gets 7 years in prison**](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rioter-attacked-capitol-tomahawk-threw-165635639.html) > A Texas man who attacked the U.S. Capitol with a metal tomahawk — and is now the face of a website selling merchandise portraying jailed rioters as “political prisoners” — was sentenced Friday to seven years behind bars. > > [Shane Jenkins](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.229273/gov.uscourts.dcd.229273.1.1.pdf), 46, tried to smash a Capitol window with his tomahawk during the Jan. 6, 2021, siege. He also repeatedly threw makeshift weapons at police officers, hurling a desk drawer, a flagpole, a metal walking stick and a wooden pole with a spear-like point. Seven years isn’t too bad, I guess, for his treason. But the part of this story that really grabbed my attention today is the writing: _a wooden pole with a spear-like point_. Personally, I’d’ve just written _spear_, but I’m not [Jeremy Duncan](https://comicskingdom.com/zits/2023-10-08). What are your suggestions for Michael Kunzelman’s new terminology for the other weapons connected with the insurrection on January 6, 2001? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2354 "2023-10-08T07:55:17Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What are your suggestions for Michael Kunzelman’s new terminology for the other weapons connected with the insurrection on January 6, 2001? I think the obvious would be “a wooden shaft with an axe like blade.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2355 "2023-10-08T09:57:58Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > He asked the White House chefs to replicate the McDonalds menu. Now I have a mental image of a stereotypical snooty chef flying into a rage at this request and chasing him around the White House with a meat cleaver. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2356 "2023-10-08T11:05:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What are your suggestions for Michael Kunzelman’s new terminology for the other weapons connected with the insurrection on January 6, 2001? Just put “freedom” or “liberty” in front of the regular name. “Look out! He has freedom spray!” “She’s swinging a liberty chair!” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2357 "2023-10-08T13:54:22Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > IOW, in my reading, Hutchinson feels that at present it is “catastrophizing” to focus on the hypothetical worst-case scenario where Trump actually is the next Republican nominee and voters have to decide whether or not to vote for him. Because she considers it very possible—and, clearly, desirable—that he won’t get the nomination in the first place. Maybe that’s what she meant, but the possibility of trump becoming the Repub nominee hardly seems like a “hypothetical worst-case scenario”. “Worst-case”, sure. But far from hypothetical or unlikely at this point. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2358 "2023-10-08T15:49:54Z")
Not sure what to say about this other than to wonder why so many people worry about Biden’s cognitive abilities when Trump says these kinds of things on an almost daily basis: > **[Trump Shows Love To 'Hannibal Lecter' In Killer Blunder At Iowa Rally](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-shows-love-hannibal-lecter-042941582.html)** > > Trump claimed "The Silence of the Lambs" killer threw his support behind him in an awkward flub on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2359 "2023-10-08T17:13:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > But the part of this story that really grabbed my attention today is the writing: _a wooden pole with a spear-like point_. Personally, I’d’ve just written _spear_, but I’m not [Jeremy Duncan](https://comicskingdom.com/zits/2023-10-08). Was it really a gizmo manufactured to be a spear? Or was he throwing a flagpole that has a spear-shaped finial on it? I know I don’t know. Big difference in accurate throwability and actual pepetrating power between a real-nokidding modern hunting spear head and the sort 6-foot flagpole one could find all over a political office. Both acts are equally criminal, the intent was to throw the [whatever] is _if_ it was a spear, and the defendant deserves at least 3x the sentence he got. But if we’re going to quibble of the article’s terminology, it’s be worthwhile to know what was really thrown. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2360 "2023-10-08T18:07:16Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > the article Are you referring to the journalism-like strings of words? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=117) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=119)