# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/221 "2023-06-07T07:58:52Z")
Why not just say something along the lines - Mr Trump, you have been proven a liar in court. A jury of your peers found that you lied about assaulting a lovely lady, that you forced yourself on her and then lied about it. Why can you be trusted to do the right thing by the country when you have been proven a cowardly liar?" Not only would this hit his weak-spots, it would also invite him to go off on and repeat the claims for which he has already been punished, seeing him back in court double quick. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/222 "2023-06-07T08:10:44Z")
Since he has repeated his defamation after the court decision, shouldn’t this time be “triple quick”? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/223 "2023-06-07T12:22:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Mary Trump suggests her uncle’s opponents should not be afraid of him, and start calling him a loser. Yeah, this. No need for any mashed potato stunt (though the idea is very funny, and nice Photoshopping @crowmanyclouds). Call him “Loser Donald” and hammer on his many failures as President. 2018 Midterms: FAIL 2020 House majority: FAIL 2020 Senate majority: FAIL 2020 Presidential election: FAIL And those are just the major ones. There are plenty more, like his failure to build more than a few miles of big, beautiful wall, despite having a House & Senate majority for his first two years. Draw a throughline from all of his many failures as a businessman leading into all those failures in his term as Pres. Keep repeating the “Loser Donald Fail Fail” narrative. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/224 "2023-06-07T12:27:07Z")
> [@solost](#): > > nice Photoshopping @crowmanyclouds 😊 I just did a Google search. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/225 "2023-06-07T12:28:35Z")
well, good googling, then 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/226 "2023-06-07T16:39:16Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > …it would also invite him to go off on and repeat the claims for which he has already been punished,… If someone attacked Trump as you suggested, Trump would attack them back. He does not answer questions, and he does not play defense. I doubt that Trump asks any questions in private, either. Trump’s persona is as someone who already knows everything, and tells people what to do. There is no need for subtlety or new information. He controls the narrative of any conversation, and talks about what he wants to talk about. You may think you can box him in by bringing up uncomfortable topics, but no one has done it, yet. Some of that description is true of all politicians, but particularly Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/227 "2023-06-07T17:05:20Z")
He also has the persona of someone who gets angry and lashes out in a way that is not controlled or effective, someone who is not in control of himself. Your description is only true part of the time. He can be taken by surprise, and he can and does react in a stupid and self-destructive manner. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/228 "2023-06-07T17:13:24Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > He can be taken by surprise, and he can and does react in a stupid and self-destructive manner. Yes, exactly. The purpose is not to get him to admit anything, it’s to make him go off on as unhinged a rant a possible. Think the, “I’m not a puppet, you’re the puppet!” bit from his debate with Clinton, but turned up to 11. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/229 "2023-06-07T17:14:48Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You may think you can box him in by bringing up uncomfortable topics, but no one has done it, yet. And he tends to storm off whenever anyone tries. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/230 "2023-06-07T17:19:28Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > And he tends to storm off whenever anyone tries. I’d count storming off in the middle of a televised primary debate as a win. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/231 "2023-06-07T17:38:58Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > He also has the persona of someone who gets angry and lashes out in a way that is not controlled or effective, someone who is not in control of himself. Your description is only true part of the time. He can be taken by surprise, and he can and does react in a stupid and self-destructive manner. I think Trump is too controlled to really throw a tantrum in public. He’ll interrupt like the “I’m not a puppet” moment. I’d like to see debate director turn his microphone off when it’s not his turn to talk. I think silencing Trump would frustrate him more than anything his debate opponents might say. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/232 "2023-06-07T18:22:25Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Think the, “I’m not a puppet, you’re the puppet!” bit from his debate with Clinton, but turned up to 11. I’m thinking more along the lines of Jack Nicholson in _A Few Good Men_. Just get him to blurt out some damning confession. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/233 "2023-06-07T18:25:10Z")
That, or the strawberries bit from _The Caine Mutiny_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/234 "2023-06-07T19:58:16Z")
I’d like to see him debate someone who treats him like [Yondu treated the Broker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhnFZOXSY_M&t=22s). 1) It would be funny; and 2) It would really piss him off. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/235 "2023-06-07T20:46:21Z")
Wheels still grinding for 6th Jan insurrectionists. > **[DOJ charges ‘Bob’s Burgers,’ ‘Arrested Development’ actor in Jan. 6 Capitol riot](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/feds-charge-bobs-burgers-arrested-development-actor-jan-6-capitol-riot-rcna88135)** > > Jay Johnston, an actor who appeared in many comedies, was arrested Wednesday and charged with felony obstruction of officers as well as several misdemeanor offenses. 100s more being teed up according to the article. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/236 "2023-06-07T21:29:33Z")
That’s disappointing, I like Jay as an actor/comedian. He was a cast member on _Mr. Show_ back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/237 "2023-06-07T23:39:21Z")
This is a 12 minute video but the first two minutes sum it up. “Mark Meadows has agreed to plead guilty to several federal charges as part of a deal he has already received for limited immunity in exchange for his testimony.” MeidasTouch [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUEYSdMwK1o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUEYSdMwK1o) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/238 "2023-06-07T23:44:30Z")
Maybe not: > **[Mark Meadows' lawyer denies report of plea deal](https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-lawyer-denies-report-plea-deal-1805180)** > > An attorney for Meadows says his client had not entered a guilty plea, but did not address Meadows' purported testimony against former President Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/239 "2023-06-07T23:49:06Z")
On the other hand: > **[Judge agrees to unseal names of those who helped George Santos make bond](https://www.aol.com/news/george-santos-lawyer-asks-keep-125939464.html)** > > The New York Republican's lawyer had told the judge overseeing the case that the co-signers would be “likely to suffer great distress, may lose their jobs, and God forbid, may suffer physical injury” if their names were released. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/240 "2023-06-08T00:07:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > On the other hand: Murray said his client “would rather surrender to pretrial detainment than subject these suretors to what will inevitably come” if their names are publicly released. Things that make you say hmmm. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=13)