# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 121
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2401 "2023-10-09T22:33:26Z")
Interesting to know: > [@Wikipedia](#): > > In July 2014, the Forbes family bought out Elevation and then Hong Kong-based investment group Integrated Whale Media Investments purchased a 51 percent majority of the company. > > In 2017, Isaac Stone Fish, a senior fellow of the Asia Society, wrote in The Washington Post that “Since that purchase, there have been several instances of editorial meddling on stories involving China that raise questions about Forbes magazine’s commitment to editorial independence.” ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2402 "2023-10-09T22:33:34Z")
What does Rosie O’Donnell have to do with it??? “Spot the misfiring neuron” could be a game with him. It’s all nonsense but sometimes you can see whence the rantings spewed. And sometimes it’s just a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2403 "2023-10-09T22:33:45Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Of course I’d love it more if he was indicted, but that moves past schadenfreude to “dancing with my wife while sipping mojitos” territory. I’d make it a waltz rather than, say, the Lindy Hop. You don’t want to spill your drink. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2404 "2023-10-09T22:45:12Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > What does Rosie O’Donnell have to do with it??? Read this: > **[Why Donald Trump has spent a decade hating on Rosie O’Donnell](https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/9/27/13072666/donald-trump-rosie-odonnell-feud-debate-explained)** > > Donald Trump displays impressive stamina in his grudge against the comedian. Now, realize that article isn’t from September 27th of this year. That’s from September 27th of **2016**. He has had a feud with Rosie O’Donnell for over 17 years now. > The public feud between the two dates back to 2006, when O’Donnell ripped into Trump on _The View_, calling him a “snake-oil salesman” and saying, “I don’t enjoy him.” In the process, she managed to hit almost every single talking point that’s been proven to infuriate Trump. She hit him so hard it still hurts. She was like Harry Potter to his Voldemort. He can never let it go. Here is the entirety of what she did to rip him a new one, from that article: > To put O’Donnell’s points in context: Trump had just held a press conference to announce that he would not be stripping Miss USA Tara Conner of her title after she was caught using drugs and drinking while underage. “I’ve always been a believer in second chances,” Trump said. > > O’Donnell was less than amused by Trump’s show of benevolent mercy. “There he is, hair looping,” she said, pushing her hair over her head to indicate the signature Trump-over as the audience applauded gleefully. “He’s the moral authority? Left the first wife, had an affair, left the second wife, had an affair, had kids both times, but he’s the moral compass for 20-year-olds in America. Donald, sit and spin, my friend!” > > O’Donnell’s co-hosts tried to come to Trump’s defense, noting, “Say what you want to say about him, but he’s a businessman.” > > But O’Donnell was having none of it: “He’s been bankrupt so many times!” she cried. “The people that he owed money to got shorted out, but he got to try again and again.” She also pointed out that Trump has made a great deal of use of both the money his father lent him and the money he inherited after his father’s death. “This is not a self-made man,” she said. In true Trumpian fashion, like Bizarro he speaks the opposite of the truth. So when he claims that Rosie O’Donnell “doesn’t know me at all”, he means that she knows him very well. So well that she cut to the core of him, emasculated and exposed him, and he can never forgive how accurate she was. He knows damn well that everything she said is true, but has to convince himself that it isn’t. When he’s denying her in public, he’s really just telling it to himself to protect his ego. He’s basically talking to himself, giving himself a public pep talk. It’s horribly, disgustingly pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2405 "2023-10-09T22:48:44Z")
Ah. Thanks, guess with all the Trump garbage over the years I missed or forgot that one. You go, Rosie. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2406 "2023-10-09T22:58:40Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > What does Rosie O’Donnell have to do with it??? > > “Spot the misfiring neuron” could be a game with him. I think the tenuous connection is “people who claim to know stuff about me”? [The way she describes the origin of the long-running feud](https://youtu.be/8M57Tt0uEM0?si=09Q_fYSv-s4FDVzg&t=74) is amusing. Decades ago she had the audacity to look up facts on his Wikipedia page and repeat them on The View. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2407 "2023-10-09T23:23:06Z")
The noive! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2408 "2023-10-10T03:01:18Z")
> [@from the link](#): > > took me off their Fake Forbes 400 list, just by a “whisker,” even though they know that I should be high up on that now very dated and discredited “antique". This is a great one. He’s mad that he’s not on their “fake and discredited” list. LOL ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2409 "2023-10-10T03:43:05Z")
I can’t be the first one here to ask why the heck his cultists think he’s so tough and strong and manly when he constantly whines and pouts and snivels about how people are so danged mean to him. John Wayne he ain’t, not by a long shot, podner. is it that they have a constant, inchoate feeling of grievance at the world, that they’re not rich and powerful and others get ahead of them, and he expresses that for them? What is it? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2410 "2023-10-10T03:55:06Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > is it that they have a constant, inchoate feeling of grievance at the world, that they’re not rich and powerful and others get ahead of them, and he expresses that for them? What is it? This is it, exactly. I’ve long called it the Cult of Perpetual Grievance and Victimhood. Nothing is ever their fault. They absolve themselves of all responsibility for every perceived ill by finding others to blame: Elites, libruls, Demoncrats, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, AOC, Adam Schiff… the list is long and goes back for decades, now. Their side offers no solutions, only blame. It works. A great many of Trump’s supporters belong to this club. It’s the first time they’ve ever had power or felt like they weren’t the dummies in the room. Pretty heady stuff. Their strength derives from sticking together, no matter what, no matter how many realities they must deny – even when the truth stares them in the face (January 6th, e.g.). They aren’t going to let go of that power willingly. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2411 "2023-10-10T05:33:30Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is a great one. He’s mad that he’s not on their “fake and discredited” list. LOL Plus, even though Forbes was purchased in 2014, Trump didn’t seem to be bothered by that fact until they left him off the list this year. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2412 "2023-10-10T06:17:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > … They absolve themselves of all responsibility for every perceived ill … And if they can’t perceive an ill, the RW media will gladly provide one. Or several. (As for me, if I’m not worrying about something I worry about what I’m not worried about, but should be.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2413 "2023-10-10T06:31:35Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is a great one. He’s mad that he’s not on their “fake and discredited” list. What’s he complaining about? He’s already on a couple of “fake and discredited” lists at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2414 "2023-10-10T11:49:36Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Burger King had the same idea, and deliberately sought to imitate and compete with McDonald’s, My favorite BK vs. McD’s urban legend is that McD’s would spend millions of dollars on research about where to put a restaurant, so that they’d maximize coverage with a minimum of overlap between stores. The BK would just build a new restaurant wherever a McD’s was built. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2415 "2023-10-10T15:15:41Z")
The nature of commerce is that clustering works. Two adjacent stores in the same retail category will sell more total than the same two stores would if separated. That location for a BK’s was more better just because the McD’s exists than it was better based on any research McD’s had done. Once BK had some national traction McD’s could outperform guesswork by simply moving in across the street from any BK that had no adjacent McD’s. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2416 "2023-10-10T17:42:15Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The nature of commerce is that clustering works. Two adjacent stores in the same retail category will sell more total than the same two stores would if separated. A Walmart next to a Costco is very common. And both are always busy. Latest “twuth” from Trump is below. In it, he complains the right is going after itself rather than the left, all the while attacking the right. [![](https://i.imgur.com/YP2n0KR.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/YP2n0KR.png) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2417 "2023-10-10T17:49:56Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > In it, he complains the right is going after itself rather than the left, all the while attacking the right. His lack of self-awareness is comedy gold. He’s a cartoon character brought to life, ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2418 "2023-10-10T17:52:53Z")
Yosemite Sam with none of the humor. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2419 "2023-10-10T18:18:19Z")
It’s like he puts a bunch of “quote marks”, Capital Letters, commas, and assorted other punctuation, shakes them up in a Yahtzee Cup, and throws them into one long “Run-On” sentence. Like that sentence! 😄 ETA: Added more random punctuation… ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2420 "2023-10-10T23:00:23Z")
“Former Trump Organization executive Jeff McConney testified in court last week that committing fraud was just an understood part of his job.” Text version > **[Trump Organization Exec Admits He Considered Fraud Part of the Job](https://newrepublic.com/post/176055/trump-organization-exec-mcconney-regular-fraud-testimony)** > > Jeff McConney is blowing the door wide open on exactly how the Trump Organization operated. 4:00 video version [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGw\_O8wiGL0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGw_O8wiGL0) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=120) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=122)