# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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I’ve been told that cracking an egg on the edge of a bowl is the incorrect method. Flat surface. In fact I saw some video not to long ago that purports that dropping an egg from about a foot onto a flat surface results in a perfectly cracked egg. It seemed to work in the video, but I haven’t really replicated it in my home lab.

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Five bucks.

> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1713537424066740319?t=4OXpbx_UuYP6_YIpKMqHqw&s=19>

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Five bucks.

Wait, was it a raffle or an auction? If it was an actual auction, that is fantastic.

This, however, really pisses me off:

> She then gets to ask Peter Navarro a question, and asks what he will be doing in the next Trump Admin. He says prosecuting Fauci, to a standing ovation.

I know that is meaningless boasty BS that would never actually happen, even if trump manages to claw and scrabble his way back into the White House.

But for the love of God, Fauci was the Director of the NIAID for almost 40 years. He was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Dubya for his AIDS relief work. He’s the closest thing to a goddam national hero there is. Fuck Navarro, fucking asshole. And fuck the crowd that gave him a standing ‘O’.

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> [@solost](#):
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> Wait, was it a raffle or an auction?

Kind of a raffle, I guess. If you wanted to enter, you wrote your name on a bill of any denomination and dropped it in the hopper. Then they drew one bill to determine the winner. No idea how many idjits threw their money away, nor how much money was thrown into the hopper.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2505 "2023-10-15T19:18:10Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Then they drew one bill to determine the winner. No idea how many idjits threw their money away, nor how much money was thrown into the hopper.

Nor how much Lindell made off with. Hopefully, 5 bucks signed by Karen.

> [@solost](#):
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> He’s the closest thing to a goddam national hero there is.

Agree. And Rush f’ing Limbaugh got the medal of Freedom or whatever it was. COMPLETLELY making the medal meaningless.

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Past time to retire the Medal of Freedom and come up with a new one.

Makes sense a Karen would win.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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So the trump campaign has had to walk back his recent comments insulting Netanyahu and praising Hezbollah, which he apparently said in the first place because poor widdle twumpie got his feelings hurt:

> Trump’s former adviser and now-presidential opponent [Nikki Haley told NBC News](https://twitter.com/steinhauserNH1/status/1712593859941654722): “He’s pissed off because Bibi praised Biden and the Biden White House for being supportive.”

I like this quote from the article:

> …apologists claimed Trump was taken out of context…

Has any public figure in history been “taken out of context” more often than trump? If I didn’t know better, I might almost think trump just poops out any verbal diarrhea that comes into his head, without any thought whatsoever to the long-term (or even short-term) effects and ramifications of what he says.

> **[Trump walks back criticism of Israel's Netanyahu in a big way](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-back-tracks-netanyahu/)**
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> Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu once had a tight relationship — but then President Joe Biden became president of the United States. Since the attack on Israel, the two leaders began communicating about Hamas and the next steps for a...

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> [@solost](#):
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> If I didn’t know better, I might almost think trump just poops out any verbal diarrhea that comes into his head, without any thought whatsoever to the long-term (or even short-term) effects and ramifications of what he says.

I’m not sure if stock phrases got in the way of your meaning here, but I’m absolutely dead certain that the truth is just as you say with this part:

> trump just poops out any verbal diarrhea that comes into his head, without any thought whatsoever to the long-term (or even short-term) effects and ramifications of what he says.

5yos are like that.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m not sure if stock phrases got in the way of your meaning here, but I’m absolutely dead certain that the truth is just as you say with this part:

I was being sarcastic. My actual meaning was just as your truncated quote of mine reads.

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D’oh! Thanks. Excessive literalism gets me again.

I twist myself up sometimes trying to be clever and end up negating my multiple negations until I can’t tell what I was trying to say and neither can anyone else.

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> [@solost](#):
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> Has any public figure in history been “taken out of context” more often than trump?

You have to understand, the context is, his poor little fee-fees were hurt, and no one was noticing it, or paying attention to him! How can you expect him to do something other than throw an outrageous tantrum that gets everyone’s attention? /s

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I twist myself up sometimes trying to be clever and end up negating my multiple negations until I can’t tell what I was trying to say and neither can anyone else.

[![](https://y.yarn.co/72d6a847-c2a9-421d-9673-fe131da34830_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/72d6a847-c2a9-421d-9673-fe131da34830_text.gif)

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Kinda like the poor folks at the Onion. It’s getting very hard to write something so crazy that reality won’t top it next week before the bits even cool.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Kinda like the poor folks at the Onion. It’s getting very hard to write something so crazy that reality won’t top it next week before the bits even cool

No doubt. I’ve toyed with the idea of creating a thread for posting real headlines related to trump or his trumpleshillspins that totally sound like ‘Onion’ headlines. I posted one here a couple days ago:

[Lauren Boebert seen crouching and smoking in Walmart parking lot after finalizing divorce](https://www.rawstory.com/boebert-divorce-smoking/)

Another one I recall from back in the dark days of the trump administration:

[Trump applauds North Korea’s ‘great beaches,’ says they would be a perfect location for condos and hotels](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-north-korea-beaches-great-place-for-hotels-condos-2018-6)

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> how much money was thrown into the hopper.

Money thrown into the hopper, perfect.

Dan

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> [@solost](#):
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> No doubt. I’ve toyed with the idea of creating a thread for posting real headlines related to trump or his trumpleshillspins that totally sound like ‘Onion’ headlines.

Do this, please. I would enjoy it!

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You asked for it, you got it!

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> [@solost](#):
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> I might almost think trump just poops out any verbal diarrhea that comes into his head

[_Bill, the Galactic Hero_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill%2C_the_Galactic_Hero) is a satiric military s-f novel by Harry Harrison. In it the eponymous Bill is a farmboy shanghaied into the Imperial Navy. At one point after a series of (mis)adventures the ship he is on is in a battle, his left arm is burned off, then minutes later he accidentally fires a shot from the main gun that destroys their attacker.

He comes to in a sickbay bed, his left arm replaced by a right arm salvaged from one of his dead shipmates. Then he learns the captain is coming.

> The door crashed open and an officer poked his head in. "Stand easy, men – this is just an informal visit by the Old Man.  
> …  
> Three more officers came through the door and finally a male nurse leading a ten-year-old moron wearing a bib and a captain’s uniform.
> 
> "Uhh … hi ya fellows … " the captain said.
> 
> “The captain wishes to pay his respects to you all,” the first lieutenant said crisply.
> 
> "Is dat da guy in da bed … "
> 
> “And particularly wishes to pay his personal respects to the hero of the hour.”
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> "… Dere was sometin’ else but I forgot … "
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> “And he furthermore wishes to inform the valiant fighter who saved our ship that he is being raised in grade to Fuse Tender First Class, which increase in rank includes an automatic re-enlistment for seven years to be added to his original enlistment, and that upon dismissal from the hospital he is to go to the Imperial Planet of Helior, there to receive the hero’s award of the Purple Dart with Coalsack Nebula Cluster from the Emperor’s own hand.”
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> … I think I gotta go to da bathroom … "
> 
> “But now the exgencies of command recall him to the bridge and he wishes you all an affectionate farewell.”
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> Bill saluted with both arms and the troopers stood at attention until the captain and his officers had gone, then the doctor dismissed the troopers as well. “Isn’t the Old Man a little young for his post?” Bill asked.
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> “Not as young as some,” the doctor scratched through his hypodermic needles looking for a particularly dull one for an injection. “You have to remember that all captains have to be of the nobility and even a large nobility gets stretched damn thin over a galactic empire. We take what we can get.”

I’ve been thinking of that passage a lot the past eight years.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> [_Bill, the Galactic Hero_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill%2C_the_Galactic_Hero) is a satiric military s-f novel by Harry Harrison.

I loved that book and also the _Stainless Steel Rat_ books. Harrison had a sick sense of humor that meshed well with mine.

Oh! And the _Eden_ books (where dinosaurs evolved before humans and became the dominant civilization, with humans as a more primitive and subservient class) and the [story](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Room!_Make_Room!) that became _Soylent Green_.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I loved that book and also the _Stainless Steel Rat_ books. Harrison had a sick sense of humor that meshed well with mine.

Although Bill the Galactic Hero was originally a standalone novel, he later issued a whole series of them, in which he collaborated with other SF writers

> [@](#):
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> Six sequels were published, from 1989 to 1992:
> 
> - The first, _Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Robot Slaves_ (1989), is by [Harry Harrison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harrison_(writer)).
> 
> After this, the sequels were penned by other writers and edited by Harrison. Harry Harrison expressed his own disappointment in the series in an interview with Brian Ireland, quoted on [Ireland On-Line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_On-Line):[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill,_the_Galactic_Hero#cite_note-5)
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> > They have a thing in the States called ‘share cropping’ where you have a series or character, and you have other writers do work with it […] I never wanted to do it, I’m not interested. But one of the packagers said, coming back to this thing I said about the pornography of violence: Harry, why don’t we do a _Bill, the Galactic Hero_ series and actually do some anti-war propaganda instead of all pro war. So they eventually talked me into it. The second one — _Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Robot Slaves_ — I did myself, that was a lot of fun. If they could all be like that. But no, no. We all make mistakes. I’m a professional writer. I earn a living at it. These are the only ones where I did it wrong.
> 
> - The second, _[Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Bottled Brains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill,_the_Galactic_Hero_on_the_Planet_of_Bottled_Brains)_ (1990), is by [Robert Sheckley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sheckley) and Harry Harrison.
> - The third, _Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Tasteless Pleasure_ (1991), is by [David Bischoff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bischoff) and Harry Harrison.
> - The fourth, _Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Zombie Vampires_ (1991), is by [Jack C. Haldeman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_C._Haldeman) and Harry Harrison.
> - The fifth, _Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of Ten Thousand Bars_ (1991), is by [David Bischoff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bischoff) and Harry Harrison (was also published under the title: “Bill, the Galactic Hero on the Planet of the Hippies from Hell”).
> - The sixth, _Bill, the Galactic Hero: The Final Incoherent Adventure_ (1991), is by David Harris and Harry Harrison.
> 
> “Bill, the Galactic Hero’s Happy Holiday” appeared as a short story in _Galactic Dreams_ (1994) by Harry Harrison.

> **[Bill, the Galactic Hero](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill,_the_Galactic_Hero)**
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> Bill, the Galactic Hero is a satirical science fiction novel by American writer Harry Harrison, first published in 1965. A novella length version appeared in the magazine Galaxy Science Fiction in 1964 under the name "The Starsloggers".
> Harrison reports having been approached by a Vietnam veteran who described Bill as "the only book that's true about the military". Terry Pratchett once said: "I don't think The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was the funniest Science Fiction novel ever written....

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