# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2621 "2023-10-20T21:25:21Z")
Talking about Häme, see this thread for many descriptions of & words for happy satisfaction at the expense of deserving others. > [@Poll - What emotion do you see on this face? (detail from famous painting)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-emotion-do-you-see-on-this-face-detail-from-famous-painting/989748): > > [poll](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-emotion-do-you-see-on-this-face-detail-from-famous-painting/989748/1) This picture is a detail from a famous painting. I’m interested to know, what emotion(s) do you read in this expression? I’ll give my own thoughts after a few other people have answered. Anyone who recognizes the painting please do not answer. [[image] ](https://i.ibb.co/JQVWc6s/Picture.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2622 "2023-10-20T21:34:46Z")
Damn, too late to edit that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2623 "2023-10-20T21:36:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > _Ring Ring!_ > > Hello? > > Is it the Asturian Dairy Central? > > No, this is the Civil Guard. > > Even worse milk. _Click!_ > > I don’t get it. mala leche ([turned to] bad milk) can be translated as: “bad/negative vibes or ill-intentioned” … and the joke plays on the literal and the wider translation of this phrase … its a grandfatherly joke to begin with and falls completely flat when translated … ps: never heard the “mala uva” phrase before ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2624 "2023-10-20T22:11:10Z")
I would like this person from the MI phony electors to do serious prison time. I would gleefully gloat over that and add any and all harsher language you can think of: Meshawn Maddock. She is a piece of work and knew exactly what she was doing. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2625 "2023-10-20T22:40:35Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Schadenfreude for Jim Jordan who will not be the speaker of the house > **[Imgflip](https://imgflip.com/i/83asbr)** ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2626 "2023-10-21T00:13:07Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > They use the expression “mala leche” in Argentina, but not the expression “mala uva”, which is what I asked about. The expressions mean literally _bad milk_ and _bad grapes_, both are used in Spain with the verb _tener_, to have. When you have/show one or the other, you are a mean person. It is related, but identical to, schadenfreude and _Häme_ (_Häme_ → see above). The phrase “mala uva” puts me in mind of “sour grapes” in English, though it means being spiteful about something you can’t have. It’s a sort of particularly loathsome envy. I get your joke though, if “spoiled milk” is a bad attitude, it’s a pretty funny joke. 😆 I think the Republicans are dining on mala uva and washing it down with mala leche. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2627 "2023-10-21T01:12:04Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Sigh, that’s why I feared that “Schadenfreude” and “Häme” are emotions genuine to the German mindset. Not really proud of it, but OTOH I sure like those feelings when it concerns people like Trump and his ilk. Oh no, we English speakers absolutely have that mindset too - it’s just that the English language is pretty famous for swiping words from other languages when an already-existing English word doesn’t quite fit. The emotion/feeling is definitely there, so off we go to rifle some other language’s pockets for a suitable candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2628 "2023-10-21T02:26:55Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Glee → Schadenfreude → Häme > in ascending order of vicious bad faith. Where would sadism appear on this spectrum? ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2629 "2023-10-21T02:33:45Z")
Where does ‘gloat’ fit in the spectrum? ‘Just deserts’? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2630 "2023-10-21T07:52:37Z")
It is quite subjective, but I think gloat could be placed between schadenfreude and Häme, closer to Häme, just deserts closer to schadenfreude, and sadism would be on another line, forming an angle, starting close to Häme. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2631 "2023-10-21T17:44:53Z")
> **[Former Florida lawmaker who sponsored 'Don't Say Gay' sentenced to prison for...](https://news.yahoo.com/former-florida-lawmaker-sponsored-dont-160823990.html)** > > The former Florida lawmaker who sponsored the controversial law critics call “Don’t Say Gay” was sentenced to six months in federal prison Thursday for defrauding a federal coronavirus relief loan program for small businesses. Former state Rep. Joe... At some point people have to start noticing that all the social-issue wedge politics is just camouflage for the grift, right? Right? … Yeah, I know. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2632 "2023-10-21T18:17:23Z")
Well, stomping on teh gays and denying the vote to ni— _felons_, that’s it, felons, is such demanding, time-consuming work you can’t possibly expect them to squeak by on a mere civil-servant’s salary, can you? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2633 "2023-10-21T18:36:49Z")
If you want to know what the modern Republican Party looks like, it’s that guy. Hatred and grift. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2634 "2023-10-21T19:24:35Z")
That dude has a fivehead. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2635 "2023-10-21T20:33:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you want to know what the modern Republican Party looks like, it’s that guy. Hatred and grift. Very well said. Thank you. Short & punchy. With side orders of stupid and hubris. But mostly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2636 "2023-10-22T02:39:08Z")
Interesting: Full title: **Lawsuit to block Trump from Colorado 2024 ballot survives more legal challenges** > **[Lawsuit to block Trump from Colorado 2024 ballot survives more legal...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/politics/colorado-lawsuit-trump-ballot/index.html)** > > A judge has rejected three more attempts by former President Donald Trump and the Colorado GOP to shut down a lawsuit seeking to block him from the 2024 presidential ballot in the state based on the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2637 "2023-10-22T07:39:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you want to know what the modern Republican Party looks like, it’s that guy. Perfectly suited for a Schutzstaffel uniform? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2638 "2023-10-22T15:03:27Z")
Wow, never saw _this_ coming! > ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2639 "2023-10-22T15:10:06Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Wow, never saw _this_ coming! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2TnkJ8_BmSI/hqdefault.jpg "Surprise-Surprise-Surprise.flv") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TnkJ8_BmSI) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2640 "2023-10-22T15:10:45Z")
So, so: the 2020 presidential election was RIGGED & STOLLEN? In case you are wondering, a [Stollen looks like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen) (wikipedia). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=133)