# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2701 "2023-10-24T18:27:42Z")

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Ellis has learned well from the grifting master.

> **[MAGA Diehards Are Furious Jenna Ellis Pleaded Guilty After Raising $200K](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-diehards-furious-jenna-ellis-173454254.html)**
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> Jenna Ellis raised more than $216,000 in donations to fight her Georgia RICO indictment, then accepted a plea deal on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2702 "2023-10-24T18:31:52Z")

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It no longer matters that Trump is a complete and utter moron. What matters is his followers are in the millions. They’ve already proven they will take violent action to get their hero the reward they believe he has, in their minds, earned. Yes, they’re morons. But they’re armed and dangerous morons. Not all of them are armed and not all of them are dangerous–except insofar as they very well could vote his ass back into office. @Johnny_Bravo is correct there will be martyrs when Trump loses. Hell, the Damn Yam has _already_ trotted out what he believed worked the first time to get him in office: demonize all Muslims; demonize all immigrants who just so happen to not be lily-white. Remember what happened right after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001? Yeah, a “patriot” murdered a Sikh man because that man was, in that moron murderer’s view was dressed like or looked like a Muslim. Do you really think these idiots are going to start shooting people with surgical precision in their choice of targets?

Trump’s also managed to demonize our election system. Of course he’s not complaining about the precincts where he won. For him, the complaint is simply he did not win so it must be someoe else’s fault. Like the toddler he is, that’s the extent of the calculus. The problem is that’s not the extent with his followers. Those idiots blame minorities. And they go to the areas where the people they despise happen to be in the majority and target them. They threaten; they harass; they take action. The reason the treasonous attack on Congress happened was because that was the last chance for those followers to stop his loss. And Trump is such a fucking idiot he didn’t even realize he did not need to open his fool mouth for it to happen. Those jackasses were already carrying out their preparations to attack Congress.

No, I do not want **Johnny\_Bravo** or anyone else to be a martyr to Trump’s ego. Well, I want Trump to be one, but I just want him to rot in prison where he belongs.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2703 "2023-10-24T18:47:09Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> He is preaching to the choir. His followers will never think him a moron.

In a world full of idiots, the merely moronic man is king.

eta: thought of better phrasing.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2704 "2023-10-24T18:57:23Z")

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So what happens with the $216K Jenna raised? I’m sure she spent some of it. She probably pays her lawyers. Is she obligated to return any of it? Could she be sued or charged with fraud if it was shown that she accepted it after deciding to cop the plea deal?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2705 "2023-10-24T20:44:34Z")

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Looking at her GiveSendGo page, it looks like the page was set up by her legal team and go to them directly. So She can’t personally dip in and buy herself a car. As to what happens to any funds that are not used by her, that is not clear, probably eventually go to a charity slush fund managed by the legal firm.

On the other hand, just because she plead guilty doesn’t mean she isn’t going to keep needing legal representation. She will likely still need to testify and may want help determining what is or is not required by the peal agreement.

By the way when I clicked on the various FAQs from the GiveSendGo they link the the internet wayback machine’s version of the pages. Any idea why a web manager would to this?

ETA Edit simulpost with Crowmanyclouds

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The two interesting things there,

> This is the OFFICIAL crowdfunding support page for Jenna Ellis, created by her legal team.

> Campaign Created by: Michael Melito  
> The funds from this campaign will be received by Melito Law LLC.

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Who they will initially be received by and who will eventually get to spend them are two very different ideas.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2708 "2023-10-24T23:50:17Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> It’s like trying to outsmart a hurricane - there may not be a malevolent intelligence that directs it but that does not mean your own intelligence will be sufficient to survive one.

Wonderfully said.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2709 "2023-10-25T00:08:20Z")

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It isn’t THAT the wind is blowin, It’s WHAT the wind is blowin.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2710 "2023-10-25T01:05:40Z")

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The only time I’ve heard that is from Ron “Tater Salad” White.

And I just saw [this on my Xwitter feed](https://twitter.com/suzannekeith71/status/1716627157730906596). Tan the Conman doesn’t even know how to count!

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2711 "2023-10-25T01:17:05Z")

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> **['There are no victims, except me': Trump flips out on Letitia James in...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-arthur-engoron/)**
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> Despite warnings from New York Judge Arthur Engoron to not attack court officials, Donald Trump went on an extended rant near midnight on Sunday, lashing out at the judge who has already fined him $5000, in addition to once again attacking New York...

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2712 "2023-10-25T01:38:36Z")

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I bet the flop sweat is starting to break out all over DJT’s goon squad. They must see his star waning fast (even _Mark Meadows_ has renounced the dark side!) and like the Bugblatter Beast of Traal are squinching their eyes shut to avert disaster. The very best thing that could happen to the Republican Party right now would be for DJT to have an unfortunate encounter with an open window. The general relief would be like lancing a boil.

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> It isn’t THAT the wind is blowin, It’s WHAT the wind is blowin. -

“If you get hit with a Volvo…”

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2714 "2023-10-25T01:55:44Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> unfortunate encounter with an open window

No need to fuck up a perfectly good Volvo.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2715 "2023-10-25T02:47:15Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> > It’s like trying to outsmart a hurricane - there may not be a malevolent intelligence that directs it but that does not mean your own intelligence will be sufficient to survive one.
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> Wonderfully said.

There are people who purposely push for chaos because they think they can win big in that environment. Trump seems to do that without realizing that’s what he’s doing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@dougrb](#):
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> It isn’t THAT the wind is blowin, It’s WHAT the wind is blowin.

The answer, my friend….

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The answer, my friend….

Is pissin’ in the wind.

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1. How does Dipshit J Trump know what all Meadows has been threatened with?
2. Erect a statue of you in DC? Shut the fuck up Donnie! No one believes you!
3. How many times will he sit on the toilet and type out STOLLEN. I bet you a hot cup of covfefe and a couple hamberders that his assistants disable auto-correct on his phone.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/ezKNAgP.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/ezKNAgP.png)

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2719 "2023-10-25T04:30:40Z")

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Such pathetic whining. Sad little man.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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Wait a minute. Powell took a plea in the election rigging case, but she is [online pushing conspiracy nonsense about the election being stolen](https://www.yahoo.com/news/sidney-powell-pushes-claims-2020-214339386.html). Does that, or does it not, violate her plea agreement?

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