# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 142
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2821 "2023-10-31T20:19:01Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > low income blue-collar workers who are brainwashed enough to send money to a multi-billionair, because he needs help (and otherwise had to use HIS OWN money). I’m pretty sure the idiot list comprises lots of other types of people, in fact I would be surprised if “low income blue-collar workers” was even a quarter of the total number of people, let alone a quarter of the amount of money raised. There are a (perhaps) surprisingly large number of people with more money than sense. They are the ones likely to be thinking “I’ve got mine, and Trump is going to help me keep it.” ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2822 "2023-10-31T23:06:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Do you want to know more about [Pastor Vaughn](https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/07/maga-pastor-who-was-jailed-for-fraud-ive-lived-for-the-lord-my-whole-life/)? > > Key points: > > - Claims to be the youngest ordained evangelist in America. > \*\* That honor actually goes to [Marjoe Gortner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner). > - Claims to have a Doctor of Theology from World Vision University in Dallas, TX. > \*\* There is no such outfit as World Vision University. There is a similarly named program at American College of Education but they don’t have a Th.D. program. > - Claims to have “lived [his] whole life for the Lord”; however, as an adult he spent three years in prison for fraud. I wonder if George Santos is his mentor. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2823 "2023-10-31T23:21:20Z")
No, but given George’s impending confinement, he can be George’s mentor soon. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2824 "2023-11-01T00:23:36Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > I attribute this to depression, anxiety, or a fatal disease, or some combination thereof, all of which bring a soothing degree of warm Schadenfreude to my soul. Even narcissistic megalomaniac with a messiah complex Donald Trump has got to be scared to death over all of these charges. He’s delusional but just the same, so many times when I see him in court he does not look confident like he does in his public events. I think he might actually be terrified and hiding it. No sympathy for that asshole though, he really fucking deserves it. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2825 "2023-11-01T00:32:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He’s delusional but just the same, so many times when I see him in court he does not look confident like he does in his public events. I think he might actually be terrified and hiding it. Well, unlike, say, Mike Lindell, I doubt he believes that God is going to come down and save him. Or if he does believe in God, in his more sane moments, he should be DAMN worried. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2826 "2023-11-01T01:34:02Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Or if he does believe in God The one positive attribute I think Trump has is he’s an atheist. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2827 "2023-11-01T02:54:29Z")
> **[Trump's Demands for Extreme Loyalty Are Starting to Backfire](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-demands-extreme-loyalty-starting-000000258.html/)** > > Seven potential witnesses told Rolling Stone Trump’s willingness to hang them out to dry has fueled legal strategies focused on self-preservation. > As he’s faced an array of criminal charges, Trump’s demands for aides and lawyers to martyr themselves for him hasn’t saved him. If anything, it’s done the opposite, driving several possible key witnesses to consider throwing Trump under the bus before he gets the chance to do it to them. … > > “If I went to jail for Donald Trump, if I did that, what would that do for me and my family?” says a former Trump administration official who has been interviewed by special counsel Jack Smith’s office. “I don’t think he would even give us lifetime Mar-a-Lago memberships if I did that for him.” ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2828 "2023-11-01T03:01:07Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Even narcissistic megalomaniac with a messiah complex Donald Trump has got to be scared to death over all of these charges. He’s delusional but just the same, so many times when I see him in court he does not look confident like he does in his public events. I think he might actually be terrified and hiding it. He doesn’t always hide it when speaking to the public. Remember a few months back when Trump released that video begging Congress to end the cases against him? Those are the actions of a man who can read the writing on the wall and was scared of the prospect of facing consequences for his actions. He can push those thoughts out of his mind when talking to a crowd, but sometimes they creep in there and you can see the fear. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2829 "2023-11-01T03:42:05Z")
I understand that when Sam Bankman-Fried testified in his own defense in his criminal trial, he didn’t do well and probably damaged his case even further. I don’t know much about him as a person, but I suspect he’s reasonably bright, but he couldn’t handle it when faced with his public statements compared to his actual behavior. I bring this up here because when the trump boys are up there on the stand testifying about the civil fraud charges against them and daddy trump, I can only imagine they will do orders of magnitude worse than Sam B-F. Being able to witness these snarling little foxes fumbling and growling and making everything much worse would be an almost overwhelming schadenfreude. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2830 "2023-11-01T04:18:02Z")
Has anyone seen those stickers in the back window of a car that are supposed to look like trump is riding in the back seat? I’ve seen two of them now. How big of loonie, weird, fan do you have to be to put a sticker of a guy’s head in the back window so it looks like you’re driving him around? His fandom just boggles my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2831 "2023-11-01T04:25:50Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I bring this up here because when the trump boys are up there on the stand testifying about the civil fraud charges against them and daddy trump, I can only imagine they will do orders of magnitude worse than Sam B-F. Being able to witness these snarling little foxes fumbling and growling and making everything much worse would be an almost overwhelming schadenfreude. Have you seen the footage from their deposition? They were horrible. I can’t imagine them doing much more than answering “On advice of counsel, I plead the 5th.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2832 "2023-11-01T04:35:40Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Has anyone seen those stickers in the back window of a car that are supposed to look like trump is riding in the back seat? I’ve seen two of them now. How big of loonie, weird, fan do you have to be to put a sticker of a guy’s head in the back window so it looks like you’re driving him around? Perhaps Trump’s face is on the other side of the sticker, so the driver can look in his rear-view mirror, imagine he’s driving Trump to separate some migrants from their children, and (checking that this is the Pit) get a tiny little erection. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2833 "2023-11-01T04:39:22Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > “If I went to jail for Donald Trump, if I did that, what would that do for me and my family?” I’m glad someone somewhere has finally realized this. Only Trump gets to go to the nice jail. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2834 "2023-11-01T06:45:48Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Has anyone seen those stickers in the back window of a car that are supposed to look like trump is riding in the back seat? I’ve seen two of them now. How big of loonie, weird, fan do you have to be to put a sticker of a guy’s head in the back window so it looks like you’re driving him around? His fandom just boggles my mind. If (when?) Trump gets sent down, every police car and prisoner transport vehicle could have those, in tribute. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2835 "2023-11-01T11:12:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > “If I went to jail for Donald Trump, if I did that, what would that do for me and my family?” This really tickles me. Not that testifying against a criminal who tried to destroy our government is a cool thing to do, but “what’s in it for me? The guys got nothing left to offer in exchange for betrauing my country, so I’m out.” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2836 "2023-11-01T11:45:48Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > The one positive attribute I think Trump has is he’s an atheist. trump doesn’t believe in anything, except his own entitlement. That’s not the same as being an atheist. He has no problem using religion as a prop when it suits him; standing in front of a church brandishing a bible, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2837 "2023-11-01T11:59:40Z")
How should I say this? Some people are atheists because they are rational thinkers. Other people are atheists because they lack the mental capacity to believe in things. Guess which kind Trump is. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2838 "2023-11-01T12:03:05Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Guess which kind Trump is. The kind unable to conceive of someone greater than himself, in his worldview. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2839 "2023-11-01T12:06:51Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > How should I say this? Some people are atheists because they are rational thinkers. Other people are atheists because they lack the mental capacity to believe in things. Well, I guess we could get lost in semantics here, but to me, not believing in God just because one has no use for God and religion does not make one an atheist; just as standing in front of a place of religion holding a bible does not make one a Godly person. To me, being a true atheist _requires_ rational thinking and a certain set of beliefs and principles. ‘Not believing in God’ and ‘believing in nothing’ are not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2840 "2023-11-01T12:24:14Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Well, I guess we could get lost in semantics here, but to me, not believing in God just because one has no use for God and religion does not make one an atheist; just as standing in front of a place of religion holding a bible does not make one a Godly person. I disagree - atheism isn’t a belief system. It’s purely descriptive. Don’t believe in a deity? Then you’re an atheist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=141) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=143)