# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I disagree - atheism isn’t a belief system. It’s purely descriptive. Don’t believe in a deity? Then you’re an atheist.

Well, according to the [Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#DefiAthe), “The word ‘atheism’ is polysemous—it has multiple related meanings”. In short, it can mean a simple lack of belief in God, as well as a broader philosophical system of disbelief in a supreme being.

So we’re both right.

Also, I just learned a new word! Looking forward to working ‘polysemous’ into a future conversation.

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> > [@ParallelLines](#):
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> > Or if he does believe in God
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> The one positive attribute I think Trump has is he’s an atheist.

Sure he believes in God.

Trump…God…what’s the difference?

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> [@solost](#):
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> He has no problem using religion as a prop when it suits him; standing in front of a church brandishing a bible, for instance.

you forgot something…  
standing in front of a church brandishing a bible **upside down** , for instance.

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > He has no problem using religion as a prop when it suits him; standing in front of a church brandishing a bible, for instance.
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> you forgot something…  
> standing in front of a church brandishing a bible **upside down** , for instance. -

Don’t forget the “what the hell is this thing?” look he gave it.

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> you forgot something…  
> standing in front of a church brandishing a bible **upside down** , for instance.

Hehe, I was watching the horror movie ‘The Nun’ for Halloween last night. One repeated horror motif was that crosses on walls would rotate to be upside-down as a signifier that a demonic presence was near.

I wonder if it means the same thing with bibles? 😄

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Don’t forget the “what the hell is this thing?” look he gave it.

It was more of a “is this where you find the two Corinthians? And what is a Corinthian?” look.

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> what is a Corinthian?

A type of leather, I think.

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Ah, the cover looked to be fine Corinthian leather! And there are two sides to a bible! You’ve cracked the case.

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> And what is a Corinthian?” look.

[What’s a Nubian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHLJfxfXHBg)?

(Link includes sweary language so may not be SFW)

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> … Don’t believe in a deity? Then you’re an atheist.

Or as an Irish atheist would put it, “There is no god, and Mary is his mother.”

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> [@Kelby2](#):
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> Trump…God…what’s the difference?

Why does God need an escalator?

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Why does God need an escalator?

The escalator was not bringing Him down, it was raising the mortal world _up_ to His level.

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> [@solost](#):
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> Also, I just learned a new word! Looking forward to working ‘polysemous’ into a future conversation.

Just don’t use it in mixed company or you might get your face slapped. 🙂

> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> brandishing a bible **upside down** , for instance

I studied that photo more than I should have and I don’t think it’s a fair cop. There was something printed on the spine and a purple ribbon bookmark sticking out. From their positions it looked like he was holding it the Bible the right way up but it was a rare case where _Holy Bible_ was not imprinted on the front cover.

I have no trouble believing he hasn’t a clue about what it says, though, just like that golden calf statue of him clutching the Constitution in his hand.

> [@wguy123](#):
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> You’ve cracked the case.

Can we work on _covfefe_ next?

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Not to take Trump’s side, but you can’t assume that. Has he ever stated he doesn’t believe in God? He’ll give lip service to his religious supporters (like “2 Corinthians”), and it’s obviously phony, but that doesn’t mean he’s a card-carrying atheist. He’s going to believe in God enough to court favor, and nothing past that.

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> He’s going to believe in God enough to court favor, and nothing past that.

Like a lot of “Christians” out there in the world.

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Has he ever stated he doesn’t believe in God?

He was confirmed in the Presbyterian Church, but now considers himself a ‘non-denominational Christian.’

> **[Trump Becomes the First President Since Eisenhower to Change Faiths in Office](https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/october/trump-nondenominational-presbyterian-religious-eisenhower.html)**
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> Like many Christians switching churches, he now identifies as nondenominational

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [What’s a Nubian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHLJfxfXHBg)?

Bitch, you almost made me laugh.

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“Pearly Gates” sounds tacky enough to be a Trump idea.

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> And what is a Corinthian?

This guy  
[![](https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/the-sandman-comic-corinthian.jpg) ](https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/the-sandman-comic-corinthian.jpg)

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Yes, but is that the first Corinthian or the second Corinthian?

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