# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/281 "2023-06-10T19:42:02Z")
My toast after popping open a celebratory bottle of Prosecco last night: “Here’s to Donald Trump’s indictment. And many more!” 🥂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/282 "2023-06-10T19:54:23Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > “Here’s to Donald Trump’s indictment. And many more!” 🥂 Nice one. I’ve stolen it. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/wLk0xlE.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/emk7TgR) ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/283 "2023-06-10T21:37:46Z")
Overview of the unsealed criminal idictment. MeidasTouch (15min). Looks pretty bad (in a good way). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZqDhd4aoI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZqDhd4aoI) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/284 "2023-06-10T22:34:11Z")
[This is some serious schadenfreude](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-reportedly-skimping-paying-132440394.html), I suppose. Basically, Trump’s getting campaign workers akin to a MLM scheme. So, where’s the schadenfreude? > _The Daily Beast_ [noted](https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-latest-2024-campaign-strategy-looks-like-a-ponzi-scheme) that it’s a “conventional practice” to pay around $15.75 per hour, but Donald Trump is opting for a different strategy: “an army of unpaid volunteers.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/285 "2023-06-11T00:10:31Z")
Worth every penny! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/286 "2023-06-11T01:20:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Donald Trump is opting for a different strategy: “an army of unpaid volunteers.” You get what you paid for. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/287 "2023-06-11T01:21:18Z")
I mean, it’s not like he has difficulty getting his name out there. I wouldn’t pay for a staff either. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/288 "2023-06-11T10:15:13Z")
“Here. Take these beautiful boxes of papers that prove I’m a superhero with tears on the lids to the furnace outside, 17 miles away near Gitmo. “ 😁🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/289 "2023-06-11T15:35:34Z")
@JohnT noted somewhere in the threads that one of the disclosures by Trump tracks back to Kid Rock. > **[Kid Rock Says Trump Turned to Him for Advice on How to Handle North Korea](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kid-rock-tucker-carlson-interview-1325014/amp/)** > > “We’re looking at maps and shit, and I’m like, ‘Am I supposed to be in on this shit?’ the rocker told Tucker Carlson I _cherish_ the thought of Kid Rock being called as a witness for the USA at donald trump’s criminal trial next year. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/290 "2023-06-11T20:34:09Z")
Hell, he’ll be up for Secretary of State if Trump gets reelected. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/291 "2023-06-12T12:04:23Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Isn’t the J6 stuff peanuts compared to the documents theft? I’ve thought about this, and I say no, not to me. The documents theft is horrific, but it’s unlikely any major, long-term security damage actually happened (possible, but not probable). But trying to subvert our democracy? That’s equally criminal, and harmful in a bigger way (IMHO). (I’m assuming by “J6” you’re including the Georgia sedition/treason, and related electoral misdeeds. The attack on the Capitol was awful, too, but less obviously the direct fault of Trump as a criminal individual.) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/292 "2023-06-12T13:59:48Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I’ve thought about this, and I say no, not to me. The documents theft is horrific, but it’s unlikely any major, long-term security damage actually happened (possible, but not probable). I’ve heard multiple experts (usually on MSNBC, my go-to) who said hostile foreign agents (1) were certainly aware of the existence, (2) had an unusually easy access available, and (3) make any confidence that “at least nothing bad happened” unsupportable. The concern ranged from “I would be shocked we weren’t compromised by hostiles” to “I’m very worried.” Trump created a smorgasbord of tasty intel for hostile agents, with all the security of your neighborhood pool. These were ex-FBI and Intel guys. And they all said to a person that we may not know for sure until some event or intel surfaces. Or perhaps never. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/293 "2023-06-12T14:56:38Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > These were ex-FBI and Intel guys. And they all said to a person that we may not know for sure until some event or intel surfaces. Or perhaps never. I would not be happy AT ALL if I was an ‘Agent’ working for the US overseas. Or even if I was in the US for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/294 "2023-06-12T15:17:21Z")
I would also not be happy if I were a malicious foreign agent who was just now finding out that a veritable cornucopia of priceless military intelligence could have been had for the low low price of asking the location of the loo. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/295 "2023-06-12T15:31:01Z")
i was thinking the same thing. could you imagine reading this indictment and missed the chance at getting all the goodies? you might end up falling from a window. the one pic. of the spilled box makes me wonder if someone wasn’t going through the boxes and had to make a quick exit. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/296 "2023-06-12T16:00:11Z")
I hoping that Trump is convicted. When he’s sentenced, I’ll think of this: [‘Don’t they know who I am?’](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e115cccf-1ed6-41fd-bc15-58d446d3a96d) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/297 "2023-06-12T16:35:31Z")
Per the experts I mentioned, it is impossible that the usual hostile suspects (Russia, China, etc.) were unaware of the existence of this treasure trove well before it was seized and secured. That was their point: How could anyone have any confidence this intel wasn’t accessed by a hostile entity? The most worried said it was likelier than not, that it would be “spy malpractice” to not have taken advantage of this unsecured archive of critical data. Think of all that Mission Impossible stuff needed in the movies to gain access to the top secret stuff. No need! As someone mentioned, getting to the intel would have been as simple as asking which way the restroom was. A gig an experienced spy would have salivated over. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/298 "2023-06-12T16:48:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I would not be happy AT ALL if I was an ‘Agent’ working for the US overseas. Or even if I was in the US for that matter. This is a very important point. Even if by some miracle, none of the intel was accessed by a hostile entity, the uncontested facts about the care the U.S. apparently gives its top secrets scares existing resources AND makes it less likely we’ll get new sources. This particular Trump shit show absolutely has _already_ compromised our national security. We are all less safe, period. Not a hypothetical, a fact. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/299 "2023-06-12T16:52:40Z")
There was a copy machine in the room with the boxes. Since I know nothing about modern copiers - is there any way the machine recorded the copy? I know they keep an internal log of # of copies, but is there any way of determining **what** was copied? It also might be a good idea (that the Feds have already thought of and acted upon) to correlate the times the copier was used with just who was on-site at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/300 "2023-06-12T16:56:12Z")
I know the copiers in our facility cached data. We couldn’t just trash a useless copier; the info sec guys had to scrub them first. So, you ask a good question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=16)