# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3021 "2023-11-09T01:06:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m quite happy to see news agencies starting to call Trump’s lies “lies” instead of weaseling around with “claims” or “assertions” or some such. Well spotted. That’s AP, I’ll be keeping a lookout now to see if other non-partisan sources are doing the same. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3022 "2023-11-09T01:10:29Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > New sitcom, Mike Lindell and Rudi Guilliani share a rat infested studio apartment in Brooklyn, and come up with wacky schemes to try to pay the rent and keep creditors at bay. Spoiler alert: Trump joins them in season 4. I can see this working with the setting being a prison. Instead of paying the rent, they can face a new charge every week, trot out some inane plot to avoid more time in jail, and inevitably lose. The title could be _Orange is the New Orange_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3023 "2023-11-09T01:12:24Z")
Pilot: Rudy and Mike are pretty sure that their new studio apartment is way too small, but their landlord insists that it’s three times as big as they think! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3024 "2023-11-09T01:15:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Instead of paying the rent, they can face a new charge every week, trot out some inane plot to avoid more time in jail, and inevitably lose. I’m picturing Sgt. Bilko situations. They could recycle those old plots. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3025 "2023-11-09T01:26:25Z")
I like it! What about having the guard captain someone like CPO Sharkey. Who would you recommend for other parts? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3026 "2023-11-09T02:17:14Z")
Bilko had a little snotty milquetoast who’d spend all his time fretting and sucking up to the commander… hilariously, of course. I picture him, in our sitcom, carrying around his security pillow. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3027 "2023-11-09T02:43:26Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > That’s AP, I’ll be keeping a lookout now to see if other non-partisan sources are doing the same. I’ve noticed a number of news sources have felt emboldened to use the term. After all the lawsuits and indictments it gets to a point where using qualifiers and careful words is just ignoring facts on record, and counterproductive for journalists. Try this experiment… Type “Trump lies” in Google and tap the “news” tab. Look at how absolutely nobody minces words anymore. These aren’t opinion pieces either. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3028 "2023-11-09T03:13:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Type “Trump lies” in Google and tap the “news” tab. I was wondering if there is something like Google ngram that can give a quantitative readout with an up-to-date corpus, but I’m not aware of anything. I’ll mess around with the filters on Google, I think that can sort of do it if you do a news search with time period. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3029 "2023-11-09T04:23:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Try this experiment… Type “Trump lies” in Google and tap the “news” tab. Look at how absolutely nobody minces words anymore. These aren’t opinion pieces either. I went ahead and did it. Bear in mind that the reason reputable newspapers generally don’t use the word is because a “lie” is an intentional act, and it’s very hard to factually prove intent. Hit #1: Newsweek says Trump lied on the stand when he said he was president in 2021. I call sloppy journalism on that one, since it’s hard to argue that wasn’t just a slip of his idiot tongue. Hit #2: Forbes says, “Ivanka helped her dad lie about his net worth.” Since the judge has already ruled that Trump has lied about his net worth, I rate this not sloppy. His lies are a matter of fact and record in this case. Hit #3: WaPo says “Special council says [Trump’s] crimes were steeped in lies.” I can’t see the rest of the article because it’s paywalled, but looks like they’re reporting on someone _else_ calling him a liar. Not sloppy. #4-#6 are opinion pieces. #7 is NBC saying, “New York judge rules Trump committed fraud and lied about net worth for years.” So again reporting on fact. Just a glance, but I think the convention is still holding strong. And it’s a _good_ convention. Responsible reporting is rarer and rarer. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3030 "2023-11-09T06:33:22Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Pilot: Rudy and Mike are pretty sure that their new studio apartment is way too small, but their landlord insists that it’s three times as big as they think! Rudy is delighted when he is offered a job interview at a prestigious hotel in the city. Hijinks ensue when it turns out to be a small landscaping business. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3031 "2023-11-09T06:41:09Z")
A small landscaping business sandwiched between a sex shop and a funeral parlour. Nah, too outlandish. Hollywood would never go for it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3032 "2023-11-09T14:10:29Z")
Shame the adjacent parlour wasn’t a pizza parlour with a basement full of pedophilic shenanigans. Perhaps that place was just off camera to one side or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3033 "2023-11-09T14:43:01Z")
A running gag will be that whenever Ivanka appears, Trump mugs for the camera, licking his lips and saying, “Hubba, hubba, hubba!” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3034 "2023-11-09T15:46:09Z")
Talk of a sitcom about trumpers reminds me of a criminally underrated gem from Trey Parker and Matt Stone from the days of the W admin called “That’s My Bush!”, a delightfully absurdist parody in the style of an 80s sitcom, complete with a wacky neighbor who’d just walk into the White House without knocking all the time, ‘Kramer’ style. Wacky neighbor in an updated version could be Lindell, Guiliani, Kanye, or all three on rotation. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mC-m1ptBzuI/hqdefault.jpg "That's My Bush! (HQ theme song)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC-m1ptBzuI) ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3035 "2023-11-09T16:01:09Z")
I could see that working. How about Four Seasons as a working title? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3036 "2023-11-09T16:28:40Z")
I just realized that the show as proposed is a bit of a sausage fest. To provide gender balance we need add Sidney Powell who as another defendant in the Dominion case will soon find herself destitute. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3037 "2023-11-09T16:54:11Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I just realized that the show as proposed is a bit of a sausage fest. There are plenty of wacky feminine foils from the trumpiverse that could be included in a sitcom about trump and his enablers: MTG, Boebert, Ivanka of course. Several from the former trump admin who aren’t as in the news as much but would still work, like Kellyanne Conway, Kayleigh McEnany, Hope Hicks. Nikki Haley could be the grownup who constantly puts her hands on her hips and shakes her head at all the shenanigans. ETA: sorry, I now realize you meant your specific show as proposed, the Lindell-Guiliani buddy comedy. ETA again: wait, you quoted my post though, so you _were_ referring to my post? I think I need more coffee 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3038 "2023-11-09T16:57:36Z")
Jenna Ellis, who as we know gets into all sorts of wacky escapades after being misled by Rudy. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3039 "2023-11-09T17:03:33Z")
[![](https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/attachments/jen/2010_09_giudrag.jpg) ](https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/attachments/jen/2010_09_giudrag.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3040 "2023-11-09T17:07:48Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I just realized that the show as proposed is a bit of a sausage fest. To provide gender balance we need add Sidney Powell who as another defendant in the Dominion case will soon find herself destitute. No, add Ivanka as a regular. She could serve the same purpose as Loni Anderson on WKRP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=153)