# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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Probably not in the short term though, right? Ouch

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Rawstory is one of my favorite occasional sources of Schadenfreude, despite the fact that they’ve published approximately 47,000 articles with some breathless version of the headline ‘TRUMP IS DONE!’ constantly since practically the day he became President. But who knows, at some point there actually may be a wolf behind all that crying.

Also, how many news article headlines contain the phrase ‘Holy cats’? I think the article is worth a post just for that reason alone…

> **['Holy cats, Trump is done': Republican responds to new evidence in Fani...](https://www.rawstory.com/fani-willis-jenna-ellis/)**
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> A former Republican lawmaker says ex-President Donald Trump "is done" after Jenna Ellis admitted to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' investigators that she was told he wouldn't leave the White House, despite having lost the 2020 election....

Also, another anonymous “high ranking” trump admin official is now bashing trump. Reminds me of the Op-Ed letter to the NY Times that came out during trump’s term: “[I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html)”.

Anyway, in the article about Jonathan Karl’s new book, the key takeaway:

> “He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring,” the former White House official told Karl. “He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law.”

Who could it be? I understand the fear of retribution from trump-nuts, but staying anonymous doesn’t really help make their point. They probably won’t be anonymous for long though, just like the NY Times op-ed letter was soon revealed to be Miles Taylor, former chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security.

> **[Trump loyalist bashes him for the first time as 'a traitor' and a complete...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-stupid-ignorant-traitor-book/)**
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> A Donald Trump loyalist came forward for the first time to bash him in Jonathan Karl's new book.In an interview with MSNBC's Jen Psaki, the ABC News reporter revealed that in his book "Tired of Winning," someone who has previously not come out...

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The what?

It was I immediately thought of.

> **[Serge Voronoff | Monkey-gland transplant work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Voronoff#Monkey-gland_transplant_work)**
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> In the late nineteenth century and early twentieth century, trends in xenotransplantation included the work of Charles-Édouard Brown-Séquard. In 1889, Brown-Séquard injected himself under the skin with extracts from ground-up dog and guinea pig testicles. These experiments failed to produce the desired results of increased hormonal effects to retard aging.
> Voronoff's experiments launched from this starting point. He believed glandular transplants would produce more sustained effects than mere in...

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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**( Miles Taylor, says about Trump)**

> [@solost](#):
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> “He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring,” the former White House official told Karl. “He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law.”

Well, yes Mr. Taylor, but could you tell us how you _really_ feel?

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> ( Miles Taylor, says about Trump)

I’m sorry, my post wasn’t clear. In the recent article I posted, yet another anonymous, supposedly high level official in the trump admin has come out bashing trump in Jonathan Karl’s new book “Tired of Winning”, and I said it reminded me of the anonymous NY Times Op-Ed letter that came out during the trump admin, and later turned out to be Miles Taylor. Sorry for the misunderstading.

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Ah, gotcha.  
change to:  
(Unidentified person says about Trump)

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> [@solost](#):
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> Rawstory is one of my favorite occasional sources of Schadenfreude, despite the fact that they’ve published approximately 47,000 articles with some breathless version of the headline ‘TRUMP IS DONE!’ constantly since practically the day he became President. But who knows, at some point there actually may be a wolf behind all that crying.

Media Bias Fact Check seems to indicate that they have a good history of factual reporting.

But I’d say that I’ve never seen anything good happen in life from finding a more sensationalist version of something, nor from finding a source who is further removed from the underlying information. If they only ever report what others are reporting, then you have one extra level of telephone going on - and by people who are known sensationalists.

You can say completely true things, “Tabacco contains many natural phytonutrients to help you relax and is a great activity for community building.” Factuality isn’t a perfect proxy for reasonableness. And there’s a whole lot of evidence in the world that a lack of reasonableness, over a very long period of time, leads to negative outcomes.

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Media Bias Fact Check seems to indicate that they have a good history of factual reporting.
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> But I’d say that I’ve never seen anything good happen in life from finding a more sensationalist version of something, nor from finding a source who is further removed from the underlying information. If they only ever report what others are reporting, then you have one extra level of telephone going on - and by people who are known sensationalists.

Yes, Rawstory is generally a news aggregator that takes an article from a more ‘reputable’ source, and while keeping the basic facts accurate, rewrites the article, punching things up with a more breathless, anti-trump tone, especially in the headline.

Usually a RS article will have a line saying something like “according to [link]“reputable news source”[/link], blah blah…”. Sometimes I’ll click through to the somewhat slightly more reputable source to share here, or if I link the Rawstory article directly, I’ll usually add a qualifier, like I did above. I’ve compared Rawstory to the ‘fast food’ of trump Schadenfruede-- delicious, but best in moderation-- in large quantities, maybe not so good for you.

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> There was a short lived fad in the 1920s of grafting testicles tissue from chimpanzees into men. It was supposed to make them more virile.

Don’t fall for it. I had the urge to fling poo for a couple of days, then nuthin’.

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> > [@Odesio](#):
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> > There was a short lived fad in the 1920s of grafting testicles tissue from chimpanzees into men. It was supposed to make them more virile.
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> Don’t fall for it. I had the urge to fling poo for a couple of days, then nuthin’. -

You got fake monkey glands. If you had gotten the real thing, you would have had nuttin’.

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That’s why they call them nuts, I see.  
I was wondering in the other thread next door about stupid labelling in the USA why the obsession with nuts, peanuts and allergens. Now everything falls into place.  
And no: peanuts are not nuts, they are pulses. We got the memo.

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Media Bias Fact Check seems to indicate that they have a good history of factual reporting.

Not good enough for [Wikipedia,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#The_Raw_Story) FWIW.

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > The what?
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> It was I immediately thought of.
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> [Serge Voronoff - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Voronoff#Monkey-gland_transplant_work)

In 1920s America a guy was just surgically inserting monkey and goat glands into the abdomens of men. It was absolutely bizarre.

> **[John R. Brinkley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Brinkley)**
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> John Romulus Brinkley (later John Richard Brinkley; July 8, 1885 – May 26, 1942) was an American quack. He had no properly accredited education as a physician and bought his medical degree from a "diploma mill". Brinkley became known as the "goat-gland doctor" after he achieved national fame, international notoriety and great wealth through the xenotransplantation of goat testicles into humans. Although initially Brinkley promoted this procedure as a means of curing male impotence, he later cl He...

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You got fake monkey glands. If you had gotten the real thing, you would have had nuttin’.

You just had to get gross after I made such a highbrow post. Shame!

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> peanuts are not nuts, they are pulses

For clarity, for most Americans, the word “pulse” is not used for plants. We’d use “legume” or “pea” instead. Typically nuts and peanuts are categorized separately in any case.

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Thanks, ignorance fought. Legume it will be from now on for me too.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Thanks, ignorance fought. Legume it will be from now on for me too..

Careful, it could be dangerous; You’d have no pulse.

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There’s [no pleasing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OjA1Pd0uQ) some people…

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> [@Some anonymous insider](#):
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> “He lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring,” the former White House official told Karl. “He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law.

…but I will vote for him if he becomes the GOP nominee, because DemonratsPizzaGroomerHerEmailsCRTWarOnChristmasWokeWokeWoke

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> You may be stupid for walking down a dark alley at night, but your mugger is still committing a crime.

Trump is using a rapist’s defence. It could not have been a crime because it was consensual. They wanted it, they were begging for it. Did you see how they smiled at him and said such nice things about him? How could they possibly have been surprised when he reached out and grabbed them by the… money?

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