# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 160
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3181 "2023-11-30T12:38:54Z")
Wow. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3182 "2023-11-30T13:19:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > This is also somewhat encouraging: [Dozens of Republican senators are silent on endorsing Trump](https://www.aol.com/dozens-republican-senators-silent-endorsing-171547028.html) I’m sure they are just waiting to see which way the wind will blow… ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3183 "2023-11-30T14:55:49Z")
Waiting to see which way the rest of the poisonous toads will jump. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3184 "2023-11-30T19:49:55Z")
I guess I find it slightly encouraging that they’re obviously not as fearful as they might once have been that Trump would blast them, or primary them, for not being quicker to endorse him. In other good news: > **[An appeals court reinstates gag order that barred Trump from maligning court...](https://www.aol.com/news/appeals-court-reinstates-gag-order-160547659.html)** > > A New York appeals court Thursday reinstated a gag order that barred Donald Trump from commenting about court personnel after the former president repeatedly disparaged a law clerk in his New York civil fraud trial. The one-sentence decision from a... ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3185 "2023-12-01T01:53:33Z")
Another pesky recording surfaces. ETA fixed url > **[Busted: Newly unveiled recording blows up key Trump defense at fraud trial](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tower-2666385738/)** > > At his civil fraud trial in New York, former President Donald Trump tried to distance himself from past financial statements that improperly tripled the size of his personal penthouse in Trump Tower.Specifically, Trump tried to claim that he had... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3186 "2023-12-01T01:59:55Z")
Thanks for the link. In case it confused others, because the link goes down the page and starts at another article (due to the comment section anchor being in the URL), this might be a bit less ambiguous: > **[Busted: Newly unveiled recording blows up key Trump defense at fraud trial](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tower-2666385738/)** > > At his civil fraud trial in New York, former President Donald Trump tried to distance himself from past financial statements that improperly tripled the size of his personal penthouse in Trump Tower.Specifically, Trump tried to claim that he had... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3187 "2023-12-01T04:00:20Z")
More about the Republic Party than Trump, but Schadenfreude nonetheless. > **[GOP Melts Down As Dick Durbin Uses Their Tactics For Advancing Biden Judges](https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-melts-down-dick-durbin-021856759.html/)** > > "It's called precedent," the Senate Judiciary Committee chair said of violating the same rule that Republicans ignored to move forward with judicial nominees. > Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee had full-blown meltdowns on Thursday after Chairman [Dick Durbin](https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Dick%20Durbin) (D-Ill.) held votes on two of President Joe Biden’s judicial nominees without allowing debate on them, saying he was simply following the “new precedent” established by Republicans when they did the same thing to Democrats, twice… > > GOP reactions went from confusion to anger to the kinds of high-octane tantrums familiar to anyone with children under the age of 5… > > It wasn’t until after Democrats voted out both nominees and the complaints had somewhat subsided that Durbin had a chance to spell out why this was happening: He was following a precedent set by the last two Republican chairs of the committee, who violated the same committee rule to advance nominees and legislation without giving Democrats a chance to weigh in. > > In other words, Durbin was giving Republicans a taste of their own medicine… > > “I’ve said time and again there cannot be one set of rules for Republicans and a different set for Democrats.” > > I’m just following your lead, guys. > > Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) suggested it was petty for Durbin to break rules just because previous \>chairmen did it, too. > > “So Mr. Chairman, you’re saying because you think Sen. Grassley violated the rule, you’re going to violate the rule?” he asked. > > “It’s called precedent, senator,” replied Durbin. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3188 "2023-12-01T04:34:06Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > More about the Republic Party than Trump, but Schadenfreude nonetheless. I hate that we’re at this point, but it’s the right thing for the Democrats to do. There really can’t be one set of rules for Republicans and another set for the Democrats. If the Democrats are in a position to deny hearings to select the next Supreme Court Justice while a Republican is in power I hope they do it. What’s good for the goose, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3189 "2023-12-01T04:39:32Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I hate that we’re at this point, but it’s the right thing for the Democrats to do. The Republic Party have been bullies for 30 years. It’s past time for the Democratic Party to take its gloves off. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3190 "2023-12-01T04:53:24Z")
It’s awfully hard to undo precedent once established. If the Democrats respond as you suggest, it would make it all but certain that American democracy is doomed to mutate into something that might better be called ’ a state of perpetual civil war’. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3191 "2023-12-01T04:58:55Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > If the Democrats respond as you suggest, it would make it all but certain that American democracy is doomed to mutate into something that might better be called ’ a state of perpetual civil war’. I thought about that as well. I’m hoping the Republicans will come around one day, but that won’t happen if you simply let them break the rules making new precedent while the Democrats keep doing things the old fashioned way. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3192 "2023-12-01T05:02:42Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > it would make it all but certain that American democracy is doomed to mutate into something that might better be called ’ a state of perpetual civil war’. It already has. It’s time the Democratic Party started fighting back. The alternative is fascism, where the Republic Party rules with an iron fist while the Democratic party say, ‘See how _we_ play by the rules?’ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3193 "2023-12-01T05:48:50Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > If the Democrats respond as you suggest, it would make it all but certain that American democracy is doomed to mutate into something that might better be called ’ a state of perpetual civil war’. It’s in this state already. Aren’t you aware of all the rhetoric from the right — not just on Fox, firehosing outrage into their addled mob, but on the floors of our state and national legislatures — referring to Democrats as literal enemies of freedom? War is underway, and one side has blindfolded itself and refuses to fight. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3194 "2023-12-01T08:47:14Z")
Why are we calling the wannabe dictator supporters the Republic Party? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3195 "2023-12-01T09:20:02Z")
I’ve wondered that too. It seems to me that the party name is “Republicans.” ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3196 "2023-12-01T09:37:24Z")
Perhaps it’s a typo, or perhaps it has something to do with the ~~spurious~~ subtle distinction people like the Heritage Foundation like to make: [The USA is not a Democracy, it is a Republic!](https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy) I suspect that by Republic they really mean an Oligarchy, so it would be better and clearer, if that was indeed the sense that was meant, to call the GOP just the Oligarch Party. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3197 "2023-12-01T12:33:16Z")
GOP, Greedy Oligarch Party. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3198 "2023-12-01T13:06:01Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > It’s awfully hard to undo precedent once established. This is true. Unfortunately, though, it’s on the Republicans to do the fixing here, since they’re the ones who broke it. GOP wants a return to the old norms, since they’ve finally realized the new norms are just as bad for them? Well, sorry guys, but it’s your turn in the barrel. They need to spend a few election cycles playing by the rules, before anyone else has to even consider the possibility that they’re truly contrite, and not just setting up to pull away the football once more. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3199 "2023-12-01T13:18:11Z")
I’m still waiting for Dems to get the opportunity to follow Mitch McConnel’s precedent of blocking a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year until the next election. It needs to happen just once for justice/balance to occur. Then we can go back to doing things the way they’re supposed to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3200 "2023-12-01T13:26:17Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > I’m still waiting for Dems to get the opportunity to follow Mitch McConnel’s precedent of blocking a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year until the next election. For that to happen, though, there would need to be a Republican president. I don’t want that to occur anytime soon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=159) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=161)