# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> mocking trans athletes.

And of course, he’s contradicting their own talking point about how they’re “Protecting women’s sport” from “men pretending to be women” who win all the medals. But they’re apparently also too weak to lift anything.

So, par for the course.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3242 "2023-12-06T12:56:51Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> What is even the point of the story supposed to be?

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The weightlifter shtick is mocking trans athletes.

> [@Horatius](#):
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> And of course, he’s contradicting their own talking point about how they’re “Protecting women’s sport” from “men pretending to be women” who win all the medals. But they’re apparently also too weak to lift anything.
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> So, par for the course.

Oh, so he’s mocking trans athletes _ **and** _ the supposed weakness of biological women at the same time. How utterly awful, yet perfectly on brand for him.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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It’s the boobs. Once you get boobs, well, you know.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
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> [@Horatius](#):
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> And of course, he’s contradicting their own talking point about how they’re “Protecting women’s sport” from “men pretending to be women” who win all the medals. But they’re apparently also too weak to lift anything.
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> So, par for the course.

One of the hallmarks of a fascist is they will present their enemies as being very weak and simultaneously very strong.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3245 "2023-12-06T14:52:39Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> the supposed weakness of biological women at the same time.

Definitely mocking women too. I think he said “a quarter ounce down here and a quarter ounce down here”. I don’t know what the bar weighs, but if it is the normal 45 lb bar, he’s saying women struggle with 45 lbs. And these are the most powerful women struggling with 45 lbs.

He’s mocking both.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3246 "2023-12-06T14:58:08Z")

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I’d like to see him lift 45 lbs! That’s probably where he learned to whine like that!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3247 "2023-12-06T15:05:03Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> I’d like to see him lift 45 lbs!

Every time he lifts his fat head off one of his tacky gold pillows.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
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Nah, his head looks fat on the outside, but it’s hollow.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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[quote=“Atamasama, post:3237, topic:984250, full:true”]  
It’s uncanny.

Only… Blowfish are poisonous. Oh, wait…

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
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> [@wguy123](#):
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> but if it is the normal 45 lb bar, he’s saying women struggle with 45 lbs.

I would bet large sums of money that Trump has no idea how much a standard bar weighs.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3251 "2023-12-06T16:08:36Z")

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No fucking way he does.

> [@Rebo](#):
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> I’d like to see him lift 45 lbs! That’s probably where he learned to whine like that!

He needs two hands to lift a bottle of water to his mouth. Guaranteed he can’t lift 45 lbs that high, let alone over his head.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
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> [@wguy123](#):
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> He needs two hands to lift a bottle of water to his mouth.

I’d nearly forgotten about the time he was photographed handling a water bottle with two hands like it was a toddler’s sippy cup.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
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I did an image search and found that that instance wasn’t a single event: He’s had to use both hands many times it appears. He does struggle with a water glass and bottle.

In that image search, I also found the comedy that was sure to follow.  
[![](https://images.indianexpress.com/2017/11/trump-water-bottle-meme10.jpg) ](https://images.indianexpress.com/2017/11/trump-water-bottle-meme10.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3254 "2023-12-06T16:22:12Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> time he was photographed handling a water bottle with two hands

time **s**. It’s standard procedure with him.

I think it was posited he was afraid of dropping it and looking feeble so he uses two hands and…looks feeble

He also takes small, mincing steps down ramps.

It was a whole thing a few years back because it led to questions about his overall health if he needed to take extra care not to trip down ramps and hold drinks with two hands

But of course, this somehow means Biden is the doddering geriatric

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3255 "2023-12-06T16:42:56Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> But of course, this somehow means Biden is the doddering geriatric

Classic technique popularized by Karl Rove of attacking your opponent’s strength. Biden is healthy for his age; Trump is not. Keep projecting your weakness onto your opponent’s strength so that any attempt to attack your weakness looks like _tu quoque_.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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I don’t get it, is that not his normal look? His standard facial expression? He looks the same here to me:  
[![](https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/zaDr50NC6yUGG-ZTxgUj1FKs0oE=/0x125:2000x1250/1920x1080/media/img/2023/11/30/WEL_TrumpPackage_FoerCorruption/original.png) ](https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/zaDr50NC6yUGG-ZTxgUj1FKs0oE=/0x125:2000x1250/1920x1080/media/img/2023/11/30/WEL_TrumpPackage_FoerCorruption/original.png)  
The one besides him is Viktor Orban, by the way, President of Turkey, whom he is gifting one of his coveted air packages.

> [@Rebo](#):
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> I’d like to see him lift 45 lbs! That’s probably where he learned to whine like that!

I’d like to see him trying to tie his own shoes without a butler! First he could not reach down, then he would not know how to make the knot. So unfair!  
I would also like to see him drawing a [clock](https://www.verywellhealth.com/the-clock-drawing-test-98619).  
Both things that a good journalist could pull off live on TV, if they had the guts. Would earn them a Pulitzer. Go ahead!

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3257 "2023-12-06T18:17:40Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> The one besides him is Viktor Orban, by the way, President of Turkey…

Hungary.

Other than that, I agree with everything in your post.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3258 "2023-12-06T18:22:29Z")

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Oh, come on! You did not know that the tanTrump himself has said that Orban is the “[Leader of Turkey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DyRJgBltGs)”? How can you doubt his word! “China? Russia? North Corea? Nobody ever did a job like Trump did a job!”

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3259 "2023-12-06T18:55:53Z")

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Now for something completely different: actual Schadenfreude (gift link)

> **[Wisconsin Trump electors settle lawsuit, agree Biden won in 2020](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/06/wisconsin-trump-fake-electors-lawsuit/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzAxODM4ODAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzAzMjIxMTk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MDE4Mzg4MDAsImp0aSI6ImFlYWUxNzIwLTdiZjItNGFlNC1hMzNmLWY4NTQ4ZDQ0ZWZjOCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDIzLzEyLzA2L3dpc2NvbnNpbi10cnVtcC1mYWtlLWVsZWN0b3JzLWxhd3N1aXQvIn0.LvP_kK-boUUwdLw3vRNQKI4SA-yv9JyoNTHYI-9rDLY&itid=gfta)**
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> The civil settlement in Wisconsin marks the first time pro-Trump electors have agreed to revoke their false filings and not repeat their actions in the next presidential election.

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They, individually, will not repeat those actions in the next election. So they’ll just find some other useful dupes and enthusiasts to do the same thing. I’m not feeling the schadenfreude.

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