# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/321 "2023-06-13T00:28:19Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump calls his supporters stupid sheep and they don’t even realize it in their bloodlust. No one distains Trump supporters more than Trump. > > [Video of Trump talking about anti-trans movement] One might note: > **[Inclusive or hypocritical? Mixed reviews for Trump's LGBTQ merchandise](https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/inclusive-or-hypocritical-mixed-reviews-trump-campaign-s-lgbtq-merchandise-n1097326)** > > While some have criticized the products, others say it’s another sign that Trump “doesn't use the LGBTQ community as a wedge issue.” > **[People May Hate Roger Stone, But He's An LGBT Ally](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherbarron/say-what-you-will-about-roger-stone)** > > I've worked most of my adult life to make the Republican party support LGBT equality. Roger Stone always supported me. I’ve had people tell me that Trump is always honest about his beliefs and hasn’t changed what he believes in, even once in 60 years. I don’t think the evidence supports that. The man’ll tell you what you want to hear, if it lets him get his hand in your pants pocket - whoever you are. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/322 "2023-06-13T00:34:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > DeSantis signed a law decriminalizing mowing down protesters with your car if they block traffic. Armed protesters. Florida is a right to carry state. No licensing or registration. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/323 "2023-06-13T00:57:13Z")
Ehh, I may be wrong, but this feels like one of those “big noise but little fizzle” times that have happened before, repeatedly. I’m not saying it’s wrong to worry, but the worry feels a ton heavier than the threat I personally predict. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/324 "2023-06-13T01:10:07Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Which why someone would take a picture with a phone instead of using a copier. When you have dozens and dozens of boxes full of documents to copy, the automatic document feeder on the copier looks pretty damn good. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/325 "2023-06-13T01:13:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Ehh, I may be wrong, but this feels like one of those “big noise but little fizzle” times that have happened before, repeatedly. I know. I have stockpiled way to much popcorn. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/326 "2023-06-13T01:14:00Z")
I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls the first attorney advertising on a billboard that he sees on the way to the courthouse. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/327 "2023-06-13T01:14:27Z")
“I’m sorry sir, but Saul Goodman is a fictional character.” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/328 "2023-06-13T01:20:03Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > When you have dozens and dozens of boxes full of documents to copy, the automatic document feeder on the copier looks pretty damn good. A phone is one helluva lot easier to put in your pocket than a couple of reams of paper. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/329 "2023-06-13T02:13:31Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls the first attorney advertising on a billboard that he sees on the way to the courthouse. “Better Call Saul!” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/330 "2023-06-13T13:38:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “I’m sorry sir, but Saul Goodman is a fictional character.” “How fast can I change my name?” – sleazy Florida lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/331 "2023-06-13T17:27:10Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “I’m sorry sir, but Saul Goodman is a fictional character.” How does that line go? “You don’t need a criminal lawyer, you need a _criminal_ lawyer!” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/332 "2023-06-13T17:27:53Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > “You don’t need a criminal lawyer, you need a _criminal_ lawyer!” I think it was one of Pinkman’s best lines. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/333 "2023-06-13T18:25:55Z")
Reasonable doubt for a reasonable price! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/334 "2023-06-13T18:26:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Reasonable doubt for a reasonable price ! I used to have that T-shirt. (public defender’s softball team) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/335 "2023-06-13T19:42:05Z")
A criminal defense lawyer here legendarily had it on his business cards, back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/336 "2023-06-13T20:57:27Z")
Heheheheh. As if anything’s going to get him to keep his pie-hole closed! > **[Judge allows E. Jean Carroll to amend her defamation lawsuit to seek more...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/13/politics/e-jean-carroll-damages-trump-cnn-town-hall/index.html)** > > A federal judge will allow E. Jean Carroll to amend her original defamation lawsuit against former President Donald Trump to include comments he made at a CNN town hall. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/337 "2023-06-13T21:17:21Z")
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/338 "2023-06-13T21:24:55Z")
This is a big deal. Because this is an ongoing case, it manages to eliminate all sorts of opportunities for Trump to interject all the usual procedural delays one would expect him to do with a new case. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/339 "2023-06-13T22:52:38Z")
Trump’s co-indictee and co-conspirator, [Waltine Torre Nauta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Nauta), is a retired US Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer. Given he enlisted in July 2001, he is not actually retired; he is a member of the US Navy Fleet Reserve until July 2031 (if he enlised on 1 July 2001, then his time in the Fleet Reserve ends on 30 June 2031) at which point he will be transferred to the Retired List. What are the current rules regarding his military status once he is convicted or pleads guilty to the federal felony? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/340 "2023-06-13T23:05:14Z")
Its not a court martial, so this would not mean a Dishonorable Discharge, or even a Bad Conduct Discharge. These both require a military court martial. Probably OTH, Other than Honorable Discharge. He could still get VA benefits. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=18)