# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Where do “crank” and “escaped mental patient” fit in?

“Crank” is class of curmudgeon, awarded after earning the Busybody merit badge. “Escaped mental patient” is several grades after “gadfly” but before “spree killer.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3523 "2024-01-04T23:53:30Z")

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Why am I flashing back to [S. O. B.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083015/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3)?

_Dr. Irving Finegarten: Hello Polly._  
_Polly Reed: Irving!_  
_Dr. Irving Finegarten: You look like an anemic turtle._  
_Polly Reed: You’re gonna let that SHYSTER in?_  
_Dr. Irving Finegarten: I could sue you for calling me that, Polly! A shyster is a disreputable lawyer. I’M a QUACK!_

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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Judge in the E Jean Carroll case is getting fed up with Trump’s antics …

> **[Judge 'increasingly impatient' with Trump's legal team ignoring his rulings:...](https://www.rawstory.com/e-jean-carroll-defamation/)**
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> With Donald Trump's last-ditch attempt to delay a second E. Jean Carroll defamation civil trial slapped aside, his lawyers are reportedly scrambling to avoid another multi-million dollar judgment — and their filings are making the judge overseeing...

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So in response to that, Trump today posted about two dozen old tweets from Carroll on Truth Social. All about sex. I’m not sure how he thinks this will help. Who am I kidding? He doesn’t give a shit. Fire up a grifting email about her and get it out pronto! More damages ahead.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> More damages ahead.

He will just get his MAGAts to pay it.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> the current corporate structure that shills for the manufacturers and exists only to perpetuate its own bloat and excess

Don’t forget the pigheaded opposition to _any_ regulation of gun ownership, however modest and sensible. Restrictions on chimpanzees with 3 violent felonies flying A-10 Warthogs and strafing downtown Los Angeles? The NRA is opposed, it’s a slippery slope to revoking the 2A! Or does that fall under shilling for the manufacturers?

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3528 "2024-01-05T05:12:29Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> So in response to that, Trump today posted about two dozen old tweets from Carroll on Truth Social. All about sex. I’m not sure how he thinks this will help. Who am I kidding? He doesn’t give a shit. Fire up a grifting email about her and get it out pronto! More damages ahead.

Between the Carroll case, the impending dissolution of the Trump organization, and all his other mounting legal fees, I’m not so sure he can grift enough to keep up with all the damages coming his way. And I think he realizes it. This is a man looking down the tunnel watching the light that was once so far away come ever closer. He’s terrified.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3529 "2024-01-05T06:47:12Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Don’t forget the pigheaded opposition to _any_ regulation of gun ownership, however modest and sensible.

Covered under shilling for the manufacturers. How are they supposed to sell product if you put any nasty restrictions on them?

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Between the Carroll case, the impending dissolution of the Trump organization, and all his other mounting legal fees, I’m not so sure he can grift enough to keep up with all the damages coming his way.

I hope you are correct, but I’ll believe it when I see it. So far his tactics of deny, delay, fabricate and obfuscate are working.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Yeah. I remember stories pretty confidently predicting his financial house of cards would collapse within a month or two of his leaving office.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> So far his tactics of deny, delay, fabricate and obfuscate are working.

Yeah, but, you know, I could say my plan is to live forever. So far, so good!

Everything works until it doesn’t.

He seems more desperate lately. It has been said a billion times before but this time it really seems like he’s actually, finally facing some consequences. But you can’t _totally_ count on that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I could say my plan is to live forever.

That’s the spirit! Live forever, or die trying!

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3534 "2024-01-05T16:21:44Z")

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I agree with this. I think he realizes that he is finally at an “all or nothing” juncture, that he either emerges unscathed or he’s done for. There’s no Deutsche bank bailout, no Putin intervention, no couple of sketchy years till he figures out the next grift, not if he ends up on the wrong side of a verdict.

I think he’s terrified. And he should be.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I think he’s terrified. And he should be.

The problem is that he is spreading his fear to his blindly following minions, who only care about Trump’s truth and not facts.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
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Very true.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> That’s the spirit! Live forever, or die trying!

> **[Give Me Immortality or Give Me Death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Me_Immortality_or_Give_Me_Death)**
>
> Give Me Immortality or Give Me Death is a comedy album by the Firesign Theatre that was released in 1998 on Rhino Records. Its main theme satirizes 1990s radio formats and public hysteria over the Y2K programming bug. Give Me Immortality... is the first of the Firesign Theatre's Millennium CD trilogy We're Doomed, which includes Boom Dot Bust and Bride of Firesign.
> The album takes the form of a fictional radio broadcast on the night of December 31, 1999. Radio Now is a FunFunTown (apparently mod...

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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I stole the line from Steven Wright.

[![](https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-intend-to-live-forever-so-far-so-good-steven-wright-32-13-98.jpg) ](https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-intend-to-live-forever-so-far-so-good-steven-wright-32-13-98.jpg)

I love Steven Wright.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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I made up ‘I’m going to live forever, or die trying!’ on my own, back in the '80s. The other ones I made up at the same time: ‘You can’t take it with you? Bollocks to _that!_ I’m not going!’ and ‘Don’t take life too seriously. You’ll never get out of it alive.’

If anyone else made those up, it just shows that great minds think alike. 😉

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I made up ‘I’m going to live forever, or die trying!’ on my own, back in the '80s.

I did the same but in the '90s, I guess I owe you royalties 😛

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> The problem is that he is spreading his fear to his blindly following minions, who only care about Trump’s truth and not facts.

The manufactured fear and outrage has always been the pitch to the MAGA base. It was always at 11, I’m not sure it’s possible to dial that up any higher just because Trump is now experiencing _real_ fear.

Although I guess a significant difference now is that he’s trying to use the fact that he’s being prosecuted for crimes as justification for much more serious revenge on his enemies if he gets reelected.

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