# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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I gotcha. Yep, 4 months. Less than I hoped but more than I expected.

> **[Peter Navarro, ex-Trump official, sentenced to 4 months in prison for...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/peter-navarro-sentencing-contempt-of-congress/)**
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> Peter Navarro​ was sentenced on two charges of contempt of Congress stemming from his refusal to comply with a subpoena.

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Thank you.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Yep, 4 months. Less than I hoped but more than I expected.

Seems about right to me. No mention in the article I read whether he will be free pending appeal. I hope not.

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> No mention in the article I read whether he will be free pending appeal.

The last sentence of [this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-adviser-peter-navarro-sentenced-defying-jan-6-committee-subpoena-rcna135457):

> Navarro appealed his conviction immediately after sentencing.

Here’s a question to legal experts on the Dope:

Navarro was charged with, and convicted of, criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to testify and provide documents to the House Select Committee. What is the difference, if any, of Navarro’s actions and those of Jim Jordan? Could Jordan be charged with contempt as well?

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> > [@Procrustus](#):
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> > No mention in the article I read whether he will be free pending appeal.
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> The last sentence of [this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-adviser-peter-navarro-sentenced-defying-jan-6-committee-subpoena-rcna135457):
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> > Navarro appealed his conviction immediately after sentencing.

I saw that. But it doesn’t answer the question of whether he’ll be free during the appeal. Most convicted felons sit in prison while their appeals are pending. (I haven’t checked if this is a felony or not)

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I’ll attempt linking from my phone again…  
From a Guardian article on the subject:  
“Within hours after the judge handed down the sentence, Navarro’s lawyers John Rowley and Stanley Woodward filed a notice of appeal to the US court of appeals for the DC circuit. As with Bannon, Navarro is expected to have his punishment deferred pending appeal.”

> **[Ex-Trump adviser Peter Navarro sentenced to four months in prison](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/25/peter-navarro-contempt-congress-trump-ex-adviser)**
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> Navarro, trade adviser during Trump presidency, convicted over refusal to comply with subpoena from January 6 committee

So it sounds like they didn’t take him out of there in handcuffs.

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[**Misdemeanor**](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192).

> **The relevant text**
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> Every person who having been summoned as a witness by the authority of either House of Congress to give testimony or to produce papers upon any matter under inquiry before either House, or any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or any committee of either House of Congress, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100 and imprisonment in a common jail for not less than one month nor more than twelve months.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I just saw a headline that said Peter Navarro has been sentenced to four months in prison.

I always associate Peter Navarro with the incident below, and I hope the asshole enjoys his time in prison.

[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hillier-navarro-canada-afghanistan-idiot-1.5701264](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hillier-navarro-canada-afghanistan-idiot-1.5701264)

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Funding a reputational repair campaign: **$11 million**

Emotional harm caused by Trump’s 2019 public statements: **$7.3 million**

Punitive damages for acting maliciously in making the statements about Carroll: **$65 million**

Schadenfreude: **Priceless**

> **[Trump trial live updates: Jury says former president should pay $83.3 million...](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-trial-e-jean-carroll-01-26-24/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump must pay $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll for defamatory statements he made against her in 2019, a jury determined on Friday. Follow the latest news here.

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Get back to me when he paid a significant fraction. (\>1%)

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Plus you _know_ he’s going to trot out and do it all over again at the next rally because his crowd will eat it up with a spoon. What needs to happen is every time he does, he gets hauled back into court and the punitive damages doubled. $130-mil, $260-, $520- To paraphrase Dirksen, pretty soon you’re talking about real money, even to him.

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What’s this I’m now seeing that Rudy’s bankruptcy trustee may be suing Donald for unpaid legal fees to Rudy? I understand the principle (the fees are listed as assets in Rudy’s Bankruptcy filing) but it sounds like those fees would have to be adjudicated and things could drag on for a long time.

Still, maybe another brick in the wall.

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Get back to me when he paid a significant fraction. (\>1%)

$5 million already posted from the 1st trial. I believe it was a bond held in escrow.

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Plus interest.

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Well, when he twuthed his response to the verdict he didn’t mention Carroll or defame her in any way, which is unusual for him, so perhaps its having some small effect at least.

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More sweet Schadenfreude:

> The same day Donald Trump was hit with a massive defamation verdict in E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case, it was reported that the ex-president could be sued on behalf of Rudy Giuliani in connection with the former mayor’s bankruptcy.
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> A bankruptcy court filing dated Friday shows that “possible claim for unpaid legal fees against Donald J. Trump” was written when the form sought specific information on contingent claims.
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> Former federal prosecutor Ron Filipkowski flagged the filing, saying it “just keeps getting better.”

> **['He stiffed Rudy': Trump faces 'new potential legal problem' in Giuliani...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rudy-bankruptcy-legal-fees/)**
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> The same day Donald Trump was hit with a massive defamation verdict in E. Jean Carroll's defamation case, it was reported that the ex-president could be sued on behalf of Rudy Giuliani in connection with the former mayor's bankruptcy.A bankruptcy...

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I have long maintained that no town can host a Trump rally AND a “professional wrestling” event on the same day.

Too much competition for the exact same demographic.

Hi, Vince McMahon!!

> **[WWE founder Vince McMahon resigns from TKO Group after being accused of...](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/26/wwe-founder-vince-mcmahon-resigns-from-tko-group-after-being-accused-of-sexual-assault-and-trafficking-in-new-lawsuit.html)**
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> The announcement came in the wake of allegations made public Thursday, of sexual assault and sex trafficking against McMahon.

[Birds of a feather. **[Paywalled](https://www.wsj.com/articles/wwes-board-finds-vince-mcmahon-paid-5-million-to-donald-trumps-charity-11660774043)**, but the details are superfluous]:

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Hell, Vince’s wife Linda has served in several roles in the Trump machine, including in the administration, and it’s a lock she knew what Vince was doing the whole time and turned a blind eye. They’re all morally corrupt and money grubbing.

They’d just combine events, charge admission, and split the proceeds. It’s not like Trump isn’t familiar with being a WWE guest star. He appeared several times back in the day

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> They’d just combine events, charge admission, and split the proceeds. It’s not like Trump isn’t familiar with being a WWE guest star. He appeared several times back in the day -

What a heel.

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One of the most unrepentant MAGAT’s I follow on FB posted a simple picture of Trump wearing a cowboy hat in front of the Alamo and she received so much shit from it that she deleted the post within 12 hours, lol.

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