# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 198
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3942 "2024-02-01T03:18:24Z")
Lincoln Project principal Rick Wilson has received a summary judgment against General Mike Flynn, who sued him for god only knows what. Wilson confirmed he will recover attorney’s fees from Flynn, as ordered by the court. > ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3943 "2024-02-01T03:25:47Z")
“Defendant RICK WILSON shall go hence without day.”? Man, imagine winning your case, but still getting sentenced to eternal night! ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3944 "2024-02-01T05:35:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1752878435062407458?t=yqXF-KgDEKL-PIzTHx0UuQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1752878435062407458?t=yqXF-KgDEKL-PIzTHx0UuQ&s=19) Can somebody explain to this foreigner (Norwegian) what “RICK WILSON shall go hence without day” means? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3945 "2024-02-01T05:50:36Z")
Legal term. I googled it (minus the name.). Essentially means we are done here. No need for (name) to return to court. ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3946 "2024-02-01T05:55:34Z")
Thank you for your answer! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3947 "2024-02-01T06:23:20Z")
Also according to some definitions, means “the claim was not meritorious and the plaintiff should not have one day in court.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3948 "2024-02-01T15:37:41Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Lincoln Project principal Rick Wilson has received a summary judgment against General Mike Flynn, who sued him for god only knows what. From the order: > The two statements General Flynn points to in his Second Amended Complaint made by > Mr. Wilson are: (1) a post calling General Flynn a Putin employee; and (2) a retweet that General Flynn is Q. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3949 "2024-02-01T15:55:15Z")
A judge in the UK has thrown out a suit Trump filed against Orbis Business Intelligence, founded by Christopher Steele of the infamous Steele Dossier. The judge said essentially that the suit was too little too late. > **[U.K. judge dismisses Trump’s lawsuit over dossier containing ‘shocking and...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/uk-judge-dismisses-trumps-lawsuit-dossier-containing-shocking-scandalo-rcna136719)** > > Trump said the dossier, which caused a political storm just before Trump’s inauguration, was fake news and a political witch hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3950 "2024-02-01T16:24:59Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A judge in the UK has thrown out a suit Trump filed Trump is now losing court cases that I haven’t even heard of. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3951 "2024-02-01T16:54:44Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Lincoln Project principal Rick Wilson has received a summary judgment against General Mike Flynn, who sued him for god only knows what. > > From the order: > > > The two statements General Flynn points to in his Second Amended Complaint made by > > Mr. Wilson are: (1) a post calling General Flynn a Putin employee; and (2) a retweet that General Flynn is Q. So, assuming Wilson actually tweeted those statements – and they aren’t literally true – aren’t they defamation? Is the defense that they were clearly parody? (And Asgard forgive me for potentially defending Flynn.) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3952 "2024-02-01T17:04:31Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > So, assuming Wilson actually tweeted those statements – and they aren’t literally true – aren’t they defamation? Is the defense that they were clearly parody? The judge had two grounds. First the anti-slapp law provides protection for speech related to important issues (paraphrasing). And second, common law defenes: > Here, Mr. Wilson came forward with evidence demonstrating a factual basis from which he made the “Putin employee” and “Q” comments. Perhaps General Flynn does not receive a w- 2 from Vladmir Putin, but he did receive payment from a Russian Federation-controlled entity. > > The “gist” and “sting” of the comment is not substantially untrue. Kieffer, 369 So. 3d at 659. Perhaps General Flynn is not the mysterious “Q”, but numerous news articles tie a close link between he and the QAnon movement. Mr. Wilson’s retweet of Mr. Stewartson’s original tweet, at least as it relates to the comment, “FYI, Mike Flynn is ‘Q’.” is unactionable rhetorical hyperbole. > At bottom, Mr. Wilson demonstrated that both the falsity element and the acting on the > falsity element cannot be met by General Flynn at trial. Having done so, General Flynn was required to come forward with evidence to dispute those elements. Mr. Wilson’s comments may not have been polite or fair. The First Amendment, though, does not require either politeness or fairness. Pullum v. Johnson, 647 So 2d 254, 258 (Fla. 1st DCA 1994). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3953 "2024-02-01T17:24:42Z")
Also, I am not sure how Flynn could prove in a court of law that he **isn’t** Q. ---
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3954 "2024-02-01T17:31:45Z")
Shouldn’t it just take a snap of his fingers? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3955 "2024-02-01T17:49:05Z")
Thanks – ignorance fought! ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3956 "2024-02-01T17:50:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A judge in the UK has thrown out a suit Trump filed I read that as “A judge in the UK has thrown out a suit Trump fil **l** ed” and expected the sentence (ha!) to continue along the lines of “without first taking Trump out of the suit”. Was a bit disappointed. Shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3957 "2024-02-01T18:51:27Z")
You would want to take him out first to launder the suit, but it would be easy. Thanks to all of that bronzer and he’d fly out like he was greased. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3958 "2024-02-01T18:57:52Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Trump is now losing court cases that I haven’t even heard of. It is beyond the ken of any mere mortal to keep track of all the lawsuits and trials Trump is involved in. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3959 "2024-02-01T19:10:42Z")
People! Do you know how many Amazonian rain forests have to be destroyed to create just one gallon of brain bleach? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3960 "2024-02-01T19:17:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Also, I am not sure how Flynn could prove in a court of law that he **isn’t** Q. “Will the real Q please stand up?” Spoiler Alert: It’s John De Lancie. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/3961 "2024-02-01T19:17:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > > A judge in the UK has thrown out a suit Trump filed > > Trump is now losing court cases that I haven’t even heard of. I know! How can I fully exult in Trump’s latest misfortune if I didn’t earlier know about the particular case or situation? > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > You would want to take him out first to launder the suit, but it would be easy. Thanks to all of that bronzer and he’d fly out like he was greased. I, for one, would have no objection to Trump being immersed in a tank of dry-cleaning fluid while still wearing the suit. A very _deep_ tank, mind you, and for a long time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=197) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=199)