# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> They’re shaped like tiny little Heinz bottles, only holding 57 ml (coincidence?)

57 ml seems to be a pretty common size for small condiment bottles. Tabasco also comes in that size, as does Liquid Smoke. Heinz Dijon mustard is available in 57 & 56 ml sizes.

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Just to get an idea of what these bottles that Trump was using looked like a googled 57ml ketchup bottle and found [this site](https://www.chickenpieces.com/heinz-ketchup-miniature-bottles-57ml-unit-60-units-case/). The descriptive text seems positively directed towards an audience of one.

> Heinz Ketchup 57ML Mini Bottles are the perfect addition to any dining experience. With their elegant design and portion control convenience, these miniature bottles are a must-have for hotels, restaurants, and cafes alike.
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> Heinz Ketchup is not just any ketchup; it is a legacy in every drop. As the most recognized brand of ketchup worldwide, it promises a taste and quality that is unmatched. Now, you can experience this iconic flavor in a conveniently compact 57ML bottle, perfect for adding a touch of luxury to any meal.
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> These mini bottles are the ideal companion for hotels, whether it’s for breakfast in bed or a late-night snack. The dainty glass bottles are designed with luxury in mind and are sure to impress even the most discerning guests.
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> Restaurants also love the elegant design and portion control convenience of these mini bottles. They not only enhance the dining experience but also ensure optimal ketchup usage, eliminating waste and ensuring that every drop counts.
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> In addition to their convenience and sophistication, Heinz 57ML Mini Bottles cater to a broader clientele without compromising on taste. They are gluten-free, making them a versatile choice for diners with dietary considerations. With Heinz, everyone can indulge in the rich, tangy delight that is their premium ketchup.
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> When you choose Heinz 57ML Mini Bottles, you are not just serving ketchup; you are making a statement. The perfectly sized bottles ensure that guests have just the right amount of ketchup, while their small glass packaging resonates with luxury dining. And with the unparalleled quality of the world’s most recognized ketchup brand, you can trust that you are serving only the best to your customers.
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> So whether you are in the hospitality industry or running a cozy cafe, Heinz 57ML Mini Bottles promise to add a touch of class to every meal. Elevate your dining experience with these miniature bottles and enjoy the legacy of flavor and quality that is Heinz ketchup.

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they are rather cute…

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Tabasco comes in 59 ml bottles, not 57. 59 ml is the equivalent of 2 fluid ounces.

Since 57 ml is 1.93 fluid ounces, I’m going to hazard a guess that Heinz did indeed settle on 57 ml for the link to “57 varieties”.

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Tabasco comes in 59 ml bottles, not 57.

I did check before posting.

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41p2ezaN7jL.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41p2ezaN7jL.jpg)

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Weird, so did I:

[![](https://images.albertsons-media.com/is/image/ABS/105400011-ECOM?$ng-ecom-pdp-desktop$&defaultImage=Not_Available) ](https://images.albertsons-media.com/is/image/ABS/105400011-ECOM?$ng-ecom-pdp-desktop$&defaultImage=Not_Available)

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Totally off-topic but I love that sauce, it’s very hard to get here in Buenos Aires, there used to be some supermarkets that carried it but I see it less and less.

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Don’t you see man? _Heinz got to them!_ Deep Sauce strikes again!

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It looks like those bottles are for different markets. The 59 is also marked 2 oz., the 57 has only the metric volume. There’s also different markings on the bottles.

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You joke, but I’m sure with ~~enough~~ 30 seconds of Googling I can find a conspiracy about ‘57’.  
[Should Jehovers Witnesses use Heinz 57 products?](https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/105619/should-jehovers-witnesses-use-heinz-57-products)  
which links back to . . . a dead link HERE!!!

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> they are rather cute…

I’ve seen them on trays from Room Service left outside hotel doors. They’re a lot more elegant than having to tear open a lot of foil packets of ketchup, but they’re kinda small for anything but the smallest portions.

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You are correct-they are very small. But I feel so de classe asking for 3 or 4 of them when I do room service at a swanky hotel.

Could be worse. It could be Sir Kensington’s ketchup, which is vile beyond imagination.

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What is that logo in the top-left corner? Is that for a non-US market?

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Good questions!

According to [the Amazon page](https://www.amazon.com/Mc-Ilhenny-Co-Tabasco-Pepper-Sauce/dp/B01D6KGRMU) where that image is, the seller is in the UK.

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> According to [the Amazon page](https://www.amazon.com/Mc-Ilhenny-Co-Tabasco-Pepper-Sauce/dp/B01D6KGRMU) where that image is, the seller is in the UK.

That probably settles that. 🙂

Also explains why there is no “oz” measurement.

But either way, it does confirm that the statement, “Tabasco comes in 59 ml bottles, not 57,” is incorrect.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But either way, it does confirm that the statement, “Tabasco comes in 59 ml bottles, not 57,” is incorrect.

Yeah, mea culpa. But I was still wondering why Tabasco would come in 57 ml in the UK, but 59 ml in the USA. I did not know that a UK Imperial fluid ounce is actually slightly smaller than a USA fluid ounce, so 57 ml is in fact 2 imperial fluid ounces. So I still think that’s just math, not specifically trying for 57 ml the way Heinz probably is.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’ve seen them on trays from Room Service left outside hotel doors. They’re a lot more elegant than having to tear open a lot of foil packets of ketchup, but they’re kinda small for anything but the smallest portions.

Maybe with those “Hand Lotion” bottles next to the shampoo some guests find a use for them.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> What is that logo in the top-left corner? Is that for a non-US market?

It is a [Queen’s Royal Warrant](https://www.thegreenhead.com/2010/11/queens-royal-warrant-tabasco-sauce.php).

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The perfect size for tiny hands to smother a burnt crispy welldone steak. I’m sure it’s two-bottles Donnie for him.

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Is it a King’s Royal Warrant now, or does Chuck not like hot sauce?

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