# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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Br’er Putin

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
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Reportedly we should find out later today just how well that worked out when Engoron’s decision gets issued on the matter of the $370M engorgement case.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4164 "2024-02-16T14:34:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I’ve heard of cases where Party A was convicted of accepting a bribe that Party B was acquitted of paying. You never know…

Heinlein uses that phrase in **Stranger in a Strange Land**.

This has made me wonder if such a case existed in Real Life. Heinlein, when he gets his steam up and is charging through a description, isn’t always reliable, and was never one to let truth stand in the way of a good story.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
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_Dis_gorgement is the word I intended.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4166 "2024-02-16T14:45:34Z")

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I thought engorgement works too, in context.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
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Doesn’t that word describe, for instance, ticks bloated on blood?

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4168 "2024-02-16T14:50:29Z")

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Yes, yes it does.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4169 "2024-02-16T15:31:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > [@silenus](#):
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> > I’ve heard of cases where Party A was convicted of accepting a bribe that Party B was acquitted of paying. You never know…
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> Heinlein uses that phrase in **Stranger in a Strange Land**.
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> This has made me wonder if such a case existed in Real Life. Heinlein, when he gets his steam up and is charging through a description, isn’t always reliable, and was never one to let truth stand in the way of a good story.

Yes, Heinlein was refering to the [Teapot Dome scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal). Secretary of the Interior Albert Fall was convicted of accepting a bribe, oilman Edward Doheny was acquitted of paying it.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4170 "2024-02-16T15:46:03Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Yes, Heinlein was refering to the [Teapot Dome scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal). Secretary of the Interior Albert Fall was convicted of accepting a bribe, oilman Edward Doheny was acquitted of paying it.

I wasn’t aware of that aspect of the case.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4171 "2024-02-16T15:56:27Z")

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Just a couple of more reasons I love this place. Someone knew my reference, and someone else knew the real life story behind the reference.

Just to add to it: Larry Niven is Edward Doheny’s great grandson.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4172 "2024-02-16T20:17:03Z")

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**Judge Arthur Engoron orders Trump to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial.**  
([Live updates: Decision reached in Trump civil fraud trial](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-civil-fraud-trial-decision-02-16-24/index.html))

Now THAT’S some tasty tasty Schadenfreude!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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OHHHH, nice!

Edit: Also, Argle Bargle witch hunt, aregle bargle appeal, blah, blah.

Suck it Donald.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4174 "2024-02-16T20:26:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Edit: Also, Argle Bargle witch hunt, aregle bargle appeal, blah, blah.

“And somebody go out and get me a truckload of ketchup!”

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4175 "2024-02-16T20:36:10Z")

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And Trump is also barred from serving as an officer of a New York business for three years. Not dissolving his companies, but kicking him out of them. That’s gonna sting.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4176 "2024-02-16T20:40:06Z")

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So how does that actually work? Who will be in charge of all the various companies that Trump and his sons were in control of? There’s the court appointed monitor, but will she be running the companies? Do Trump and sons still get the profits and other benefits from them?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4177 "2024-02-16T20:44:55Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Who will be in charge of all the various companies that Trump and his sons were in control of?

[![](https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iW.QnonbAyak/v1/-1x-1.png) ](https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iW.QnonbAyak/v1/-1x-1.png)

Not me!

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**Dark Brandon!**

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Who will be in charge of all the various companies that Trump and his sons were in control of?

I suggest Hunter Biden.

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⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐  
I’ve startled my wife and probably the neighbors hooting. 😍 😍 😍

DARK BRANDON for the win!!

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Seen elsewhere on the web:

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> NYY [_sic_] has decided that Trump is not trustworthy enough to do business in the state for three years but the GOP and their followers still believe he’s OK to run America.

Hey, I laughed!

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