# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> If only I knew I had a chance, I’d happily mortgage my house to give him ten times that amount,

Currently (20 Feb 2024, 0735 PST), the top five highest priced offerings on eBay for these things are $45,017.19, $33,799.99, $24,474.50, $24,449, and $19,990.00.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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Does eBay have rules against auctioning off something that does not exist yet?

Probably not.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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Probably not, but you can’t sell things that don’t exist either.

> **[Reminder: You Can't Sell Your Soul on eBay](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/651406/you-cant-sell-your-soul-ebay)**
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> It may be the place to bid on items you can't find anywhere else, but eBay draws the line at auctioning off your soul to the highest bidder.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Does eBay have rules against auctioning off something that does not exist yet?

The word “yet” here suggests an optimism bordering on naivety. The suckers might end up with nothing more than a link to a picture, which the orange conman will claim is digitally signed and hence a valuable NFT. Or he might be in prison by the promised ship date and not claiming anything except persecution.

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The problem with the MAGA cohort is that the application of the [Greater Fool Theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory) takes a long time to find its limit.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The thing is, the numbers are kind of lame. So he pulls $400k with the Sneaker Stunt. That’s about 0.1% of what he owes in fines _this month alone_. If this pittance matters enough to him to show up in person for it, that just shows how desperate his finances really are.

Yeah it seems very small potatoes for Trump. I’m thinking it might be a pump and dump scheme. He sells maybe a couple of dozen pairs (if that) to the rubes for $400 and keeps the rest to trickle out slowly on Ebay at whatever the current biggest fool will pay.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The problem with the MAGA cohort is that the application of the [Greater Fool Theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory) takes a long time to find its limit.

The thing to remember about Greater fool investing is that at the time you buy you are by definition to current greatest fool.

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A good sign.

[Supreme Court won’t review sanctions against pro-Trump lawyers who filed frivolous 2020 election suits | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/20/politics/sidney-powell-lin-wood-supreme-court/index.html)

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Sort of a stretch for this thread, but these folks are enablers. Another “Supreme Court won’t review” goodie:

[https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4478298-supreme-court-turns-away-house-gop-lawmakers-appeal-over-mask-rule-violations/](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4478298-supreme-court-turns-away-house-gop-lawmakers-appeal-over-mask-rule-violations/)

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I am of course astonished that MTG was one of three GOP members involved.

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I am all amazement, to quote Jane Austen.

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Not that eBay is taking a firm stance on that either way, which actually makes it more amusing.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I am of course astonished that MTG was one of three GOP members involved.

From the “Hill Report”. “…“The House Rules, under this Doctrine, could impose physical punishment, flogging, or even more medieval forms of punishment, upon members and, under the D.C. Circuit’s precedent, no judicial remedy would be available, the Eighth Amendment notwithstanding,” they continued.”

Flogging would be good. $100,000.00 in fines is good too.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> From the “Hill Report”. “…“The House Rules, under this Doctrine, could impose physical punishment, flogging, or even more medieval forms of punishment, upon members and, under the D.C. Circuit’s precedent, no judicial remedy would be available, the Eighth Amendment notwithstanding,” they continued.”

What’s more medieval than flogging?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What’s more medieval than flogging?

The Breaking Wheel? The Rack? That old classic Iron Maiden? (In which a person is tied to a chair and made to listen to _Aces High_ on endless loop)

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Trumps crack legal team “failure to appeal a major decision against him to the United States Supreme Court before the deadline expired.” MeidasTouch  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMN0UCTWCds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMN0UCTWCds)

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> Trumps crack legal team “failure to appeal a major decision against him to the United States Supreme Court before the deadline expired.”

That’s a youtube video. Can you tell us what decision they failed to appeal?

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Can you tell us what decision they failed to appeal?

Here you go

> [@](#):
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> Donald Trump is now [open to civil lawsuits over his alleged role in the Jan. 6](https://nypost.com/2023/01/06/brian-sicknicks-family-suing-donald-trump-for-wrongful-death/), 2021, Capitol riot after missing a deadline to appeal a lower court ruling to the US Supreme Court.
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> The former president, 77, had until Feb. 15 to ask the nine justices to rule on whether he should be immune from civil cases blaming him for the violence — but no appeal was filed

> **[Trump vulnerable to Jan. 6 lawsuits after missing Supreme Court immunity...](https://nypost.com/2024/02/19/us-news/trump-open-to-jan-6-suits-after-missing-scotus-appeal-deadline/amp/)**
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> Donald Trump is now vulnerable to lawsuits over his alleged role in the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot after he missed a deadline last week with the US Supreme Court.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What’s more medieval than flogging?

[Marsellus Wallace calling a couple of hard pipe-hittin’ n-words to go to work with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVRPz6-Tkww).

Even for Trump and his enablers, that might be a bit too much schadenfreude.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> What’s more medieval than flogging?

The Brass Bull ( in which they stick you in a big hollow brass bull statue and then heat it up slowly).

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Nitpick: The legendary Brass/Brazen Bull torture device is supposed to have been used by ancient tyrants, not medieval ones. (If, in fact, it ever existed; it appears to have been an urban legend of the early Christian martyrs. Not that there weren’t in fact plenty of real-life tortures inflicted on many early Christians, but they didn’t involve costly special-purpose metal statuary.)

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