# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The Brass Bull ( in which they stick you in a big hollow brass bull statue and then heat it up slowly).

That’s not medieval, that’s classical!

Edit: I should have know a brave soul would have swept in with an act of pedantry before I arrived.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4343 "2024-02-21T03:08:54Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> to rule on whether he should be immune from civil cases

If he doesn’t get immunity in these civil cases, which he won’t, he doesn’t get it in federal cases either, is my understanding.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4344 "2024-02-21T04:02:18Z")

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The phones of a 100+ Capitol police and their families will be ringing off the hook soon.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4345 "2024-02-21T04:06:50Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> The phones of a 100+ Capitol police and their families will be ringing off the hook soon…

I hope so. Get in while he still has some assets to seize.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4346 "2024-02-21T12:14:02Z")

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But it’s such a cool idea (metaphorically)! Anyway, thank you for the info.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4347 "2024-02-21T13:27:05Z")

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Ugh. I started to read The Library at Mount Char, but after the brass bull scene I couldn’t go on.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4348 "2024-02-21T14:09:15Z")

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Shouldn’t it be a brass elephant anyway?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4349 "2024-02-21T14:49:13Z")

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Well, if we’re talking about Trump, which one’s tackier? Go with that.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4350 "2024-02-21T20:44:35Z")

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In that case, it’d be a gigantic pair of brass truck nuts.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4351 "2024-02-21T22:06:01Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> From the “Hill Report”. “…“The House Rules, under this Doctrine, could impose physical punishment, flogging, or even more medieval forms of punishment, upon members and, under the D.C. Circuit’s precedent, no judicial remedy would be available, the Eighth Amendment notwithstanding,” they continued.”
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> Flogging would be good. $100,000.00 in fines is good too.

In the modern era, where fines are just paid for by a GoFundMe or whatever other 3rd party methodology, some form of punishment that actually affected the individual would probably be worth switching to.

Punishments in the realm of imprisonment, losing certain voting rights, access rights, positional rights, etc. would probably be more useful to rein in malicious behavior.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4352 "2024-02-21T23:36:43Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> In the modern era, where fines are just paid for by a GoFundMe or whatever other 3rd party methodology, some form of punishment that actually affected the individual would probably be worth switching to.

I think it still does though.

If a politician I supported asked for money on GoFundMe due to “political persecution” or whatever, and then a few months later asked for a donation to a campaign, I’d probably be both less willing and less able to donate. It’s not a bottomless well they can tap whenever and however they want to.

Not saying that I’m not in favor of other forms of punishment but fines aren’t toothless.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4353 "2024-02-21T23:40:25Z")

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I’ve never seen good analysis that followed from, “Based on what I would do, this is what would happen in the real world.”

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4354 "2024-02-21T23:43:51Z")

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Ancient bronze statues were fabricated from lost wax castings and mostly hollow, so it’s entirely possible that the execution in the public square utilized a GENERAL-purpose metal statuary…

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4355 "2024-02-22T00:11:43Z")

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? …which had a door built into it to facilitate putting prisoners inside? Nah, that sounds pretty special-purpose to me.

Mind you, in no way am I claiming that such a device couldn’t have existed; it’s just that there seems to be no reliable evidence that one ever did exist. People of all eras like making up urban legends about stuff that in principle could perfectly well have happened.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4356 "2024-02-22T00:46:31Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> “Based on what I would do, this is what would happen in the real world.”

Let me make it easier. This is what **everyone** will do.

I mean, it’s not like suddenly every politician can just get any money they want anytime. It’s GoFundMe, not a genie.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4357 "2024-02-22T01:39:32Z")

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To date, that’s not my experience of life.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4358 "2024-02-22T07:25:14Z")

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> **[Federal judge affirms MyPillow's Mike Lindell must pay $5M in election data...](https://apnews.com/article/mike-lindell-election-denial-arbitration-award-a9b27dd8d37eab1d0f22111566feba93)**
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> A federal judge has affirmed a $5 million arbitration award against MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell.

Pillow man on a losing streak. Challenges someone to prove his “evidence” that China turned the election to Biden is wrong and he’ll pay $5million. Someone does …and Mike goes all Mangoman, not paying, so sue me, so you won, we’ll appeal, delay, etc…

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4359 "2024-02-22T09:21:39Z")

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Legal experts say Trump sycophant Loose Cannon is inching ever closer to being thrown off the case:

> **['Two strikes': Experts say Aileen Cannon is getting closer to being recused](https://www.rawstory.com/aileen-cannon-jack-smith-2667325740/)**
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> U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Donald Trump appointee whose decisions have raised concerns about bias toward the former president, might have finally gone too far, wrote legal experts Norm Eisen and Joshua Kolb for Slate on Tuesday. What's...

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4360 "2024-02-22T10:59:39Z")

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Eh. A site like Raw Story writing that “legal experts say…!” is the left-wing equivalent to Trump telling stories about strong men with tears in their eyes.

I’ll believe it when it happens. Until then it’s just wishful noise.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4361 "2024-02-22T11:26:01Z")

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I’ll believe it when it happens, too. I’m not a follower of “Raw Story”, it’s just something that Microsoft forces with the Edge browser that I haven’t bothered to modify because sometimes the stories are interesting.

Anyway, Cannon now seems to be trying to redeem herself:

> **[Judge Cannon blocks Trump lawyers' plan for a deluge of legal filings](https://www.rawstory.com/aileen-cannon-2667331916/)**
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> U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon rejected a request by former President Donald Trump's legal team to file all of his pretrial requests in one go, telling the former president to do each as an individual filing.Cannon is overseeing the federal case...

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