# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 226
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4502 "2024-03-04T23:33:31Z")
One can easily misread that headline as “Trump served notice E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer can ‘get to work’ on his ass next week”. Amounts to the same thing, really. 😉 > **[Trump served notice E. Jean Carroll's lawyer can 'get to work' on his assets...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-carroll-lawyers-get-to-work-collecting/)** > > Donald Trump was warned by a former federal prosecutor on Sunday that, if he fails to post a bond or pay the full amount owed to E. Jean Carroll, the columnist's attorneys can "get to work" on collecting the judgment for defamation after this... ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4503 "2024-03-04T23:42:08Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I’m interested to see what kinds of things you have in mind here. I know we call them a crime family, but it seems to be all white-collar crime so far. No, I don’t think he would have someone break their kneecaps. I’m sure Trump could find any number of reasons to sue Weisselberg’s extended family or otherwise make their lives miserable. His son Barry still works for the Trump Org. after all. Throwing him under a bus wouldn’t be that difficult. > [@Monty](#): > > Condemn him in public. Then the magatflatearthers will start harassing him and his family, to include death threats. And this, too. Allen and his family benefited spectacularly from the shady goings on in Trump world. He probably thinks that was worth some jail time to avoid any repercussions in his family’s future. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4504 "2024-03-04T23:43:29Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I’m interested to see what kinds of things you have in mind here. I know we call them a crime family, but it seems to be all white-collar crime so far. What could the orange greasebag do to him that would be as bad or worse than sending him to prison? Stuff like this. > **[Authorities investigating online threats made to potential witness related to...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/authorities-investigating-online-threats-made-potential-witness-trump/story?id=107057357)** > > Authorities are investigating threats made online to a potential witness related to the special counsel's classified documents case against former President Trump. He aims the crazies at someone and lets go of the leash, as he did to Pence on January 6. Or the poll workers in Georgia (though he got Rudy to do that on his behalf). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4505 "2024-03-05T00:59:29Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Why do they call themselves ‘Libs’ ??? > [@Cervaise](#): > > They don’t. The premise of the name is “(Let’s Make Fun of) the Libs of TikTok.” > [@enipla](#): > > Thanks. So even their name is stupid. I don’t TikTok or Twitter or any of that, so perhaps I don’t understand the lingo. > [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s like “People of Walmart” or “Epic Fails”; they repost things that left-leaning people put on social media (with derogatory commentary) to use as examples of why they hate them. It ends up being extremely racist at times and discriminatory toward the LGBTQ community. Lots of hate speech and misinformation. And threats. > **[Libs of TikTok creator accused of inspiring school bomb threats named to...](https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/libs-tik-tok-bomb-threats-oklahoma-library-committee-rcna135369)** > > Chaya Raichik, who runs the inflammatory Libs of TikTok social media account, was named an adviser to the state Education Department’s library committee. > In addition to last year’s scare in Tulsa, posts by the account have preceded [several bomb threats](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/25/libsoftiktok-posts-school-bomb-threats-davis-tulsa/70676277007/) to schools, libraries and [hospitals](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/boston-childrens-hospital-warns-employees-far-right-online-harassment-rcna43376) across the country in recent years. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4506 "2024-03-05T15:33:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Condemn him in public. Then the magatflatearthers will start harassing him and his family, to include death threats. And all it takes is one to carry out such a threat. > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I’m sure Trump could find any number of reasons to sue Weisselberg’s extended family or otherwise make their lives miserable. His son Barry still works for the Trump Org. after all. Throwing him under a bus wouldn’t be that difficult. Yeah but he’s facing most of a year in prison (two 5 month sentences, each actually involving 100 days in prison). Neither of these things seem remotely comparable to that in terms of risk. Hell, Trumps been happily sic’ing his followers on everyone connected to this case, and the worst result so far has been a swatting. Not that there isn’t a real risk of something worse (and that isn’t the explicit intention of Trump), but as risks go compared to 9 months in prison I’d happily live with that. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4507 "2024-03-05T18:44:16Z")
Depends on his priorities though. My father, who is in poor 85, is far more concerned about the future for me, my brother, and my neice and nephew than he is for himself, despite the fact that he’s at much more of an immediate risk. Is Weisselberg equally fatalistic at this point, considering his age and health? I have no way to know, but it’s certainly not uncommon, nor irrational. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4508 "2024-03-05T19:43:19Z")
My assumption all along is that Trump knows where Weisselberg’s family’s skeletons are buried. Offshore accounts, untaxed gains, possibly even worse. You turn on me and just wait for the expose on all your tax evasion and who knows what else. I mean, you think a guy who helps Trump lie, cheat, and steal isn’t himself lying, cheating, and stealing? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4509 "2024-03-05T19:51:07Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > My assumption all along is that Trump knows where Weisselberg’s family’s skeletons are buried. Offshore accounts, untaxed gains, possibly even worse. But unless they are actual literal skeletons any plea deal would have covered them, and Weisselberg is not dumb, he must know that (not only that, as he owes money in business fraud verdict against Trump Corp, the same people who’ll be combing through Trumps businesses will be combing through his) ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4510 "2024-03-05T19:52:51Z")
Is that true? Can a plea deal include “hey, my wife has millions in offshore, illegal accounts and my son runs a criminal enterprise, but if I cooperate you’ll leave all that alone”? And if it could be done, would a prosecutor agree to it? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4511 "2024-03-05T21:02:40Z")
Can? Yes. Would? Almost certainly not. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4512 "2024-03-05T21:06:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Can? Yes. Would? Almost certainly not . I knew of a case where two drug smugglers pleaded guilty and gave up a lot of their ill gotten gains. The government let their elderly mother keep the house they bought for her. It was a complicated plea deal, and they had to show a lot of cooperation to get that concession. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4513 "2024-03-05T22:15:26Z")
I thought you were going to say that between the slabs of sheetrock, the house was insulated with wads of Ben Franklins… ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4514 "2024-03-07T01:16:49Z")
As a Florida lawyer, I get the Florida Bar News, a monthly publication about the industry for practitioners. Much like reading obituaries, my morbid side always skips ahead to the announcements of Disciplinary Actions. One of the people mentioned had participated in the January 6th insurrection, but only in a peripheral way, as he pleaded to a misdemeanor and received probation. Nevertheless, the Florida Supreme Court saw fit to suspend his license for **5 years** , after which he can apply for readmission. Find a new career, fucker. You’re too stupid to practice law. > **[March 1, 2024 Disciplinary Actions](https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-news/march-1-2024-disciplinary-actions/)** > > The Florida Supreme Court in recent court orders disciplined nine attorneys, disbarring two, revoking the license of four, suspending two, and reprimanding one. Guillermo Jose Farinas, P.O. Box 773, Palm Beach, suspended for 91 days effective 30 days... ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4515 "2024-03-07T02:30:04Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Much like reading obituaries, my morbid side always skips ahead to the announcements of Disciplinary Actions. The first thing I do with a new issue of our national medical journal ([CMAJ](https://www.cmaj.ca/)), is to check the obits. And, the first thing (and often the only thing) I do when a new issue of our [provincial professional college’s journal](https://opsdt.ca/hearings/outcomes) arrives is check out the all the disciplinary announcements. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4516 "2024-03-07T04:01:01Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4517 "2024-03-07T08:31:39Z")
The Orange Menace who some time ago bragged about being so rich that he had $400 million in cash and liquid assets just lying around apparently cannot even come up with the $83.3 million for the E Jean Carroll judgment, let alone the $450+ million in the New York State civil judgment. After said Orange doofus insulted the judge and then his idiot lawyer Habba doubled down on the hostility, Habba is now suddenly a lot more docile … > **['Trump could be having difficulty' as Alina Habba begs judge for 'mercy' on...](https://www.rawstory.com/alina-habba-trump-begs-mercy-payout/)** > > Former President Donald Trump's attorney is begging New York Judge Lewis Kaplan to give just a little more time on the deadline to begin enforcement of Trump's $83.3 million defamation judgment in the E. Jean Carroll case, reported MSNBC legal... The fantasy headline I like to envision is “E. Jean Carroll Forecloses on Mar-a-Lago”. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4518 "2024-03-07T09:00:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The Orange Menace who some time ago bragged about being so rich that he had $400 million in cash and liquid assets just lying around apparently cannot even come up with the $83.3 million for the E Jean Carroll judgment, let alone the $450+ million in the New York State civil judgment. After said I would love to believe what you say is true, and it may well be true, however I don’t think that Trump’s lawyers saying he can’t pay, and him not paying, is in itself evidence he can’t do so at this point. As I understand it, Trump doesn’t like paying anything to anyone ever. But his general tightfistedness pales into absolute insignificance compared to the extent to which he won’t want to pay these judgements. If Trump pays these judgements at all, ever, (and I’m not holding my breath) it will be under circumstances in which he is physically unable to prevent it. We have not yet reached that point. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4519 "2024-03-07T09:17:37Z")
That’s certainly all true, and I obviously can’t attest to the accuracy of the article, but the part that I found reeking of desperation was the request that, if the judge doesn’t rule for an extension of the stay or a reduction in the required bond, “he should at least stay enforcement of the judgment for three business days” after the expiration of the existing stay, which expires Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4520 "2024-03-07T09:25:08Z")
“Three business days.” Jeez, Donnie, does that give you enough time to liquidate Bedminster Golf Club? Trump Tower? Mar-a-Lago? I don’t think it does. It’s just another “delay, delay, delay.” ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4521 "2024-03-07T09:52:17Z")
Conceivably three days is an amount of time sufficient to make a difference to negotiations over a bond. Having said that I strongly suspect three days is simply the maximum amount his lawyers dared to request. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=225) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=227)