# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 229
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4562 "2024-03-08T05:34:02Z")
Doesn’t alter my point. I’m not trying to take any blame off Trump. I’m simply saying that the idea that asking for three days was a pointless exercise is not necessarily true. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4563 "2024-03-08T05:51:18Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I’m simply saying that the idea that asking for three days was a pointless exercise is not necessarily true. If Trump’ lawyers had provided at least a smidgen of evidence that anyone had been doing ANYthing in the past 25 days to work towards organizing financing, that would have been beneficial to his case. They did not provide anything like that. At all. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4564 "2024-03-08T06:16:03Z")
For that matter, what all of us (and the judge, and the lawyers I believe) are thinking REAL loud, but not saying: _You know, almost anyone with your reported wealth and income could and should be able to effortlessly get a bond you know._ _The fact that YOU can’t speaks volumes about your financial and contractual honesty._ _Sorry, not sorry._ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4565 "2024-03-08T06:34:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If Trump’ lawyers had provided at least a smidgen of evidence that anyone had been doing ANYthing in the past 25 days to work towards organizing financing, that would have been beneficial to his case. > > They did not provide anything like that. At all. Delay, delay, delay. Wait until the eleventh hour, file a motion, and have the delay granted on the grounds of the motion stating something-something-something. Except this time, it’s not working. I think that Kaplan is on to typical Trumpian tactics (love the alliteration), and has had enough. Trump had time to arrange things, it appears that he did not, that he did not even make an attempt to, and if he couldn’t make a start in thirty days, why would he now? If a delay was granted, what’s to suggest that he will not file yet another motion asking for a delay at the next deadline? With his decision, Kaplan strikes me as one who has had it with Trump and his lawyers. I haven’t read the decision, but I’m sure that in this matter, Judge Kaplan thinks to himself, “Shit or get off the pot, Donnie.” ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4566 "2024-03-08T06:54:28Z")
I suspect the quality of his financial staff ‘rivals’ that of his trial lawyers.Trump’s longtime accountant, Allen Weisselberg, has pleaded guilty to even more crimes—this time, perjuring himself and frustrating the bank fraud case. Quality people/firms expect to be paid for services and not get dragged into a fraudulent enterprise crime family. I don’t think Eric or Donnie Jr. have the acumen to handle a 1040ez let alone a hundred plus LLCs. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4567 "2024-03-08T13:09:40Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > ell, just one level, from rear admiral (lower half)(the goofiest rank in the entire U.S. military IMHO; they used to be called commodores) No, “REar Admiral” and “Commodore” are distinct and still-existing ranks > [@](#): > > Navy a commodore is ranked above a captain and below a rear admiral; the designation has usually been used only in wartime. > **[Commodore | naval rank](https://www.britannica.com/topic/commodore)** > > Other articles where commodore is discussed: captain: Navy a commodore is ranked above a captain and below a rear admiral; the designation has usually been used only in wartime. Outside the navies, the master of any vessel is addressed as captain,... > [@](#): > > **Commodore** is a senior [naval rank](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_rank) used in many [navies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy) which is equivalent to [brigadier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigadier) or [brigadier general](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigadier_general) and [air commodore](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_commodore). It is superior to a navy [captain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(Navy)), but below a [rear admiral](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_admiral). > **[Commodore (rank)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_(rank))** > > Commodore is a senior naval rank used in many navies which is equivalent to brigadier or brigadier general and air commodore. It is superior to a navy captain, but below a rear admiral. It is either regarded as the most junior of the flag officers rank or may not hold the jurisdiction of a flag officer at all depending on the officer's appointment. Non-English-speaking nations commonly use the rank of flotilla admiral, counter admiral, or senior captain as an equivalent, although counter admiral ... REgarding “Captain” and “Lieutentant”, plenty of Lieutenants have been Captains of their ships, both in the UK and the American navies. Possibly the most famous was Captain Bligh, of _Mutiny on the Bounty_ fame, whose nominal rank was lieutenant. I’m researching US submarines right now in the 1920s through the 1940s. All the sub captains appear to have been lieutenants or commodores. Post captains got big surface ships, for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4568 "2024-03-08T14:08:45Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > No, “REar Admiral” and “Commodore” are distinct and still-existing ranks Slight nick-pick. While there are a few officers of O-7 rank in the US Navy who are Commodores (I think three?), the rest are titled Rear Admiral (Lower Half). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4569 "2024-03-08T14:13:37Z")
In my time in the Navy (almost twenty years ago now), “Commodore” was NOT a rank, but an informal title for naval squadron commanders (i.e. commanding officers of a group of submarines or surface ships). Submarine commodores were generally O-6 (Captain). EDIT: Just googled, and Commodore is indeed NOT a rank in the US Navy today. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4570 "2024-03-08T14:16:22Z")
The judge in the E. Jean Caroll case will not allow Trump to have extra time to secure his bond, since he asked for the time 25 days into his 30-day period. Poor fellow! /s > **[Judge rejects Donald Trump's bid to delay $83m bond in Carroll case](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68512942)** > > Judge Kaplan says Mr Trump had time to secure funds after being found guilty of defaming E Jean Carroll. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4571 "2024-03-08T15:18:11Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > …I’m researching US submarines right now in the 1920s through the 1940s. All the sub captains appear to have been lieutenants or **commodores**. Post captains got big surface ships, for the most part. Emphasis added. I presume you mean commanders (and lieutenant commanders). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4572 "2024-03-08T16:21:12Z")
Heheheh. > **[Republicans baffled by Katie Britt’s State of the Union response: ‘One of our...](https://www.aol.com/news/katie-britt-response-biden-state-144830079.html)** > > The 42-year-old Alabama senator is a rising Republican star but her kitchen table speech did not land well even in her own party ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4573 "2024-03-08T16:33:07Z")
I’m a little surprised Republicans have enough self awareness to realize how bad it was. It’s a slippery slope. First, you think the party’s official speaker might be a little off. Next thing you know, you’re questioning the mental state of the party’s candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4574 "2024-03-08T16:35:47Z")
I don’t see an American flag pin on her lapel. Burn her! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4575 "2024-03-08T16:46:04Z")
AOL is still a thing? 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4576 "2024-03-08T16:49:15Z")
That was [“Good Day, Mr. Kubrick”](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bmj0)-level bad audition tape. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4577 "2024-03-08T16:50:41Z")
I mean, I can see what they were going for. Like, “yes, I’m a senator, but also I’m a wife and mother who probably just made dinner for my kids, so I totally have traditional values”. In another political environment it might have played better. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4578 "2024-03-08T16:55:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Elsewhere, the gonzo filmmaker Tom Arnold [said](https://twitter.com/TomArnold/status/1765984663452151982): “Katie Britt is so bad she couldn’t be in one of my movies.” Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4579 "2024-03-08T16:56:30Z")
> [@leahcim](#): > > I mean, I can see what they were going for. Like, “yes, I’m a senator, but also I’m a wife and mother who probably just made dinner for my kids, so I totally have traditional values”. In another political environment it might have played better. My grandmother was a member of the Saskatchewan legislature in the '50s and '60s when female MLAs were rare. When a press photographer came to her house, he said he wanted a picture of her taking a pie out of her oven. She sternly replied that he would take a picture of her working at her desk. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4580 "2024-03-08T17:33:21Z")
I don’t know that I’d want the nation to see inside my home. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4581 "2024-03-08T18:11:37Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > When a press photographer came to her house, he said he wanted a picture of her taking a pie out of her oven. I’m also remembering the episode of “The Crown” that showed Margaret Thatcher still cooking her family dinner while being prime minister. The point is, even if the set up is getting mocked online, there is a constituency that eats this kind of thing up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=228) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=230)