# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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So to speak.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4583 "2024-03-08T22:21:58Z")

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I’m assuming the photographer wasn’t planning on making the pie for her?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
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You remember the '50s well.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4585 "2024-03-08T22:47:21Z")

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Only from what I’ve seen and heard, but we’ve all seen similar idiocy from even more recent years.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4586 "2024-03-09T01:20:56Z")

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Yes - Commodore is still a job - but it’s not a rank. This fellow

[https://www.csp.navy.mil/css17/Leadership/](https://www.csp.navy.mil/css17/Leadership/)

is the Commodore of Squadron 17 - but his rank is Captain

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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The fuck they have to make that shit so confusing for??

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4588 "2024-03-09T03:30:37Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Yes - Commodore is still a job

More of a way of life, really. Just ask these guys.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FrkEDe6Ljqs/maxresdefault.jpg "Commodores - Nightshift (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrkEDe6Ljqs)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4589 "2024-03-09T10:32:18Z")

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I’ve never served but I grew up in a Navy family and my dad served on surface ships and subs, so I picked up a few things. (Not to mention growing up in a Navy town, working for the Navy in a couple of different jobs, having friends in the Navy…) In the Navy you have ranks, and you also have different jobs. For example, on a ship there will be a Commanding Officer/CO (the person in charge of the ship), and an Executive Officer/XO (the second-in-command to the CO). The XO is going to be a lower rank than the CO, but they can be of various ranks within the Navy. The CO is also called a captain, though they don’t necessarily have the rank of Captain. Generally the XO handles the day-to-day stuff, handles personnel things, and so on, while the CO deals with the big picture things.

If you ever watched Star Trek: The Next Generation, Captain Picard was the CO of The Enterprise and Commander Riker was the XO (though Picard usually referred to Riker by the nickname “Number One”).

Another way to look at it is, in the United States Congress, you have Senators and Representatives who are all the same “rank”. But they have different roles; you have the Speaker of the House, Majority Leader of the Senate, you have members of different committees (and heads of those committees), and so on. But they’re still all the same rank in the government to each other. You might call someone “Speaker” but they’re just a Representative.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4590 "2024-03-09T10:36:31Z")

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IIRC, the CO and the XO of an aircraft carrier in the US Navy both hold the rank of Captain.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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I didn’t know that they could even be the **same** rank.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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On top of that, they both must be aviators.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4593 "2024-03-09T12:24:00Z")

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Yeah, I was going to say a CO and an XO might have the same rank. The Eng might also have the same rank as the other two in some cases I think - but the CO is still the CO.

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4594 "2024-03-09T12:27:35Z")

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More schadenfreude, less military hierarchy, please?

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Heheheh.
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> [Republicans baffled by Katie Britt’s State of the Union response: ‘One of our biggest disasters’](https://www.aol.com/news/katie-britt-response-biden-state-144830079.html)

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I’m a little surprised Republicans have enough self awareness to realize how bad it was.

I didn’t see the original Katie Britt “rebuttal” broadcast but I caught some of it on YouTube. Holy hannah – the first I saw of it had been on a clip that Bill Maher showed yesterday in the middle of his monologue, and I was sure it was parody. No, it turns out it was real. I think Maher took the unusual step of showing the clips because neither he nor his writers could come up with anything to say about it that was funnier than just to show it. JFC, Republicans have been getting more and more stupid for so many years that I think now they’ve officially lost their minds!

> [@saje](#):
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> More schadenfreude, less military hierarchy, please?

Yes, thank you. I came in here to see what Schadenfreude all the new posts were about, and they were apparently about military org charts.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
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If 2 members of the military are the same rank, the person with the earliest date of attaining that rank is senior (superior).

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4597 "2024-03-09T17:33:11Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I didn’t see the original Katie Britt “rebuttal” broadcast but I caught some of it on YouTube. Holy hannah

Trawling about the Internet, I’ve learned that Katie’s kitchen is part of a 6,300 square foot house, and itself is bigger than most people’s living room, with a whole wall of floor to ceiling windows. Just like ordinary folks, right?

Also, that voice she spoke in is known in the South as “Fundy Baby Voice,” apparently the correct voice for proper wimmins to use in that part of the world.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Also, that voice she spoke in is known in the South as “Fundy Baby Voice,” apparently the correct voice for proper wimmins to use in that part of the world.

Fascinating! Apparently a voice shared with Kelly Johnson, the vapid Christian-nationalist wife of Mike Johnson …

> **["Fundy baby voice"— Kelly Johnson, wife of House Speaker, and other...](https://boingboing.net/2023/11/06/fundy-baby-voice-kelly-johnson-wife-of-house-speaker-and-other-evangelical-women-are-trained-to-adopt-childlike-voices.html)**
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> Kelly Johnson, married to Christian Nationalist House Speaker Mike Johnson, was recently invited on Fox News to tell viewer that she is a kind and loving person despite equating homosexuality…

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Also, that voice she spoke in is known in the South as “Fundy Baby Voice,”

As opposed to Bay of Fundy voice, used by Nova Scotians.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4600 "2024-03-09T18:14:36Z")

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That just made me shudder so much.

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The CHENG (Chief Engineer) is an engineer officer, not unrestricted line. He’s a captain (at least on both carriers on which I served), but cannot command.

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