# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> > [Mike Lindell Cancels Latest Stunt Because The Evidence Is ‘Too Dangerous’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt7WC92500&ab_channel=FarronBalanced)
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> > So close…
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> Were the packets armed…

…[with tangerines?](https://www.businessinsider.com/my-pillow-ceo-mike-lindell-attack-fan-poked-him-selfie-2021-8)

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4743 "2024-03-14T21:14:57Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> But we already had that all set to go via the Trans-Pacific Partnership, in a way that wouldn’t have lead to the sudden rise in inflation. Trump just replaced it with a dumb, self-harm alternative.)

Which brings us right back to 1) Fix all the problems quickly and damn the consequences and 2) Trump HAS to have his name on it. A pre-existing, slowly moving (as to not upset the applecart) fix that someone else gets credit for? Not on Trump’s watch. See also, building a wall by hook or by crook, even if it means stealing from Military funds? Or any other countless examples.

> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@ParallelLines](#):
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> > It’s too early to drink, but I need one now.
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> You know, it’s this kind of defeatist attitude that’s going to kill us. Crack open a beer!

2 more hours, see, I can put off immediate action and prepare for consequences!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> 2 more hours, see, I can put off immediate action and prepare for consequences!

Tomorrow, there will be a press conference (of sorts) where the pillow guy will explain that nefarious forces have conspired to hide/change/tamper with/eat his indisputable explosive evidence.

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I doubt either of us would’ve been surprised if he’d turned it over and over in his head four years ago, or eight years ago…

Of course.  
This time however, I’m putting invisible money on it that he’ll actually verbalise it; even Stafanik’ll be eventually deemed too uppity or whatever.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> [United States presidential pets - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_pets)

> James K. Polk, Andrew Johnson, and Donald Trump.

Quite the trio.

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Quite the trio.

Polk on drums, Johnson on bass and Trump on sad trombone?

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Not sure that this video has been posted, but I just learned of it. Does Trump have a mini-stroke during this? I mean seriously, how can you watch this and think they guy is OK?

> **[User Clip: Saudi Arabia and Russia Will What?](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5108401%2Fuser-clip-saudi-arabia-russia-what)**
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> Russia will be repepute?

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Should we create a new prerequisite for the presidency? You have to own and properly take care of a pet before you can be considered?

I’m half joking, but on seriously thinking about it having and taking care of a pet does demonstrate a certain mentality? State of mind?

Is there a reason that the only three presidents that didn’t have a pet were all universally pretty terrible? (I don’t know very much about Polk to be TBH)

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> (I don’t know very much about Polk to be TBH)

This oughta cover it.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nGCuDDAPggw/hqdefault.jpg "They Might Be Giants performing James K. Polk") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGCuDDAPggw)

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The “evidence” to be presented by Pillow guy is not the point. He got it out on the airwaves/interwebs that he has “explosive evidence”. That’s all the rubes will see on the crawl at the screen bottom. "EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY DIDN’T WANT YOU TO SEE!!! MAGA MAGA MAGA!

It’s exhausting.

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Should we create a new prerequisite for the presidency? You have to own and properly take care of a pet before you can be considered?
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> I’m half joking, but on seriously thinking about it having and taking care of a pet does demonstrate a certain mentality? State of mind?

Wouldn’t be a bad idea. Caring for a pet demonstrates, well, the ability to **be caring** , and to do so on behalf of a creature who can do nothing for you other than bring you happiness by observing its own joy. This doesn’t happen if you don’t give a shit about anyone or anything other than yourself, and are in fact overtly hateful – i.e.- if you are Trump. Trump has said himself that he’d never have a dog, which I can support with the additional observation that he **never should be allowed** to do so. Trump would, however, be very good in functions that match his character, such as being the commander of a Nazi concentration camp.

> [@Jihi](#):
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> Is there a reason that the only three presidents that didn’t have a pet were all universally pretty terrible?

Yes. (See above.)

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> If it wasn’t because pets cannot stand him I bet Trump would be thinking about naming his pet VP.

Well, look at how he treated his _last_ pet VP.

> [@OldOlds](#):
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> But it was the America First part that they all mentioned. As much as it pains me, Trump is consistent in this - he routinely says his priority is the interest of the US and that other leaders’ priorities should be to their countries’ interests.

Yet, it’s glaringly obvious how he was anything but America First while in office. Russia First, Other Dictatorships Second is pretty much what he was and will be.

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> But it was the America First part that they all mentioned. As much as it pains me, Trump is consistent in this - he routinely says his priority is the interest of the US and that other leaders’ priorities should be to their countries’ interests. They want a leader that puts Belgium first, not the EU, not NATO, etc.

Dummies, all. A stable world is in America’s interests. No country has benefited more than the U.S. from the Western alliance. NATO is to our enormous benefit.

Anyone who believes that our alliances and foreign aid are solely (or to _any_ extent in some matters) humanitarian is a chucklehead of the highest order. You want to benefit America most? Don’t do what Trump proposes.

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I’ve noticed a lot more general unhappiness with the EU than I think is apparent from this side of the pond. I think a clear majority supports it, but more than you’d expect don’t like it.

Heavily influenced by one V. Putin (again). Breaking up the EU, like breaking up the US and NATO, suits his agenda just fine.

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Speaking NOT for @OldOlds, but from people outside the US who have spoken admiringly about Trump in my experience, they want the Big Strong Man™ who will fix all the problems just like they promise, and do so quickly and without raising taxes.
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> IE they want the father figure who can fix anything magically without them having to sacrifice everything. Which, of course, is how Trump and his ilk portray themselves, while blaming any failures on THOSE OTHER GUYS.
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> No one wants to be told there are long delayed, expensive problems that will take a lot of work and probably sacrifice to fix, and will take decades to get done. More rational individuals acknowlege that and work for the future, many people though just want things to stay the same or get even a little bit better RIGHT NOW and leave the future for the future.

This is true but I think ultimately it’s even worse than that: Trump validates their worst behaviors. As I’ve said all along, Trump is the Alpha Asshole, exhibiting every attribute of selfish, hateful, spiteful pettiness and, more importantly, _getting away with it_ in a way that all his followers wish they could. That’s a heady, powerful attraction, and ultimately it’s this that has sucked so many into his cult.

_Forbidden Planet_ warned us - monsters of the id may destroy us all.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Russia First, Other Dictatorships Second is pretty much what he was and will be.

How can you forget the sweet romance he had with Kim Jong Un?

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That wasn’t romance. It was just yellow fever afflicting orange.

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I thought Pillow Guy called off his Big Reveal because the information he had was just “_too dangerous_.”

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Trump on sad trombone?

No – [accordion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDz8xMXU8s).

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Nitpick (the originator of the clip got it wrong): [concertina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina) (or as I was brought up to regard it, “squeeze-box”).

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And now I have that song stuck in my head.

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