# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 241
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4802 "2024-03-19T15:09:41Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > there are allegedly people in this country who are somehow _on the fence_ about Trump - don’t ask me how This also completely blows me away. The amount of totally uninformed people is incredulous. But I guess I know one. Never voted in his life “won’t make a difference” uninformed about current events “what can I do”. Another is bought the Trump bullshit and won’t change his mind. I know it’s hard to admit you were conned by an idiot, but you don’t have to admit anything. I DON’T CARE. Depending on your vote, it may be your last one. I’m not politically active, but I do stay informed and by god I vote. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4803 "2024-03-19T15:16:04Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The amount of totally uninformed people is incredulous. Uninformed I can understand. I have relatives who are just not interested in politics or current events. It’s when they refuse to become educated in the basics that I throw up my hands. For example: “I get that you don’t care about Ukraine. But which candidate will allow your sister to have the choices and lifestyle she wants?” ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4804 "2024-03-19T15:23:46Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Foremost, though, is that it is the most public admission to date that Trump is not the billionaire he has claimed to be. Not true! He has BILLIONS and BILLIONS tied up in real estate. Hell, Mar a Lago on it’s own is worth a cool $1.2B, probably more! His wealth isn’t very liquid. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4805 "2024-03-19T15:23:48Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > I might have been covered in other threads but I want to include it here for the purposes of schadenfreude. …Based on his own court filings, Trump can’t come up with the $464 million needed to post a bond preventing the AG from seizing his properties next week pending Trump’s appeal. This warms my heart on multiple levels. Seeing it on Fox News Business is even more schadenfreudey: > **[Trump assets, including NYC tower, could be on the chopping block to pay...](https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-assets-including-nyc-tower-chopping-block-pay-massive-355m-civil-fraud-ruling)** > > Several of former President Trump's multi-million assets could be on the chopping block as a 30-day deadline looms to pay off $355 million in a civil fraud trial. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4806 "2024-03-19T15:25:21Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > But which candidate will allow your sister to have the choices and lifestyle she wants? “I donno” - That’s uninformed. Or “Let my sister vote on it, it’s her choice” which is just lazy and stupid and uninformed. And really, uncarring. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4807 "2024-03-19T15:27:31Z")
Beat me to it. But the Daily Beast article is fun anyway. > **[Trump Golf Club Settlement Hangs Alina Habba Out to Dry](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-new-jersey-golf-club-settlement-hangs-lawyer-alina-habba-out-to-dry)** > > The former president’s lawyer may still face fallout for her involvement in an ex-employee’s hush money deal over harassment claims at Trump’s Bedminster club. > [@](#): > > Bianco feels betrayed by Habba, who was one of her Bedminster regulars until, her lawsuit says, Habba posed as a concerned friend giving legal advice about how to address alleged sexual harassment by a supervisor—only to abuse that relationship and “fraudulently inducing” her to “quickly agree to unconscionable and illegal terms.” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4808 "2024-03-19T15:28:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Beat me to it. But the Daily Beast article is fun anyway. The more the merrier. I sometimes wonder if I irritate folks with how many articles I share. Yours was paywalled for me, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4809 "2024-03-19T15:33:51Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Yours was paywalled for me, btw. Weird. I’ve never had an issue accessing the Daily Beast (which I rarely do, to be fair). The fun part is that Habba is now facing a potential bar complaint in New Jersey on top of the ones she’s facing for letting Weisselberg lie in New York. Another Trump attorney who has ended up needing an attorney of their own. Schadenfreude indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4810 "2024-03-19T15:34:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Another Trump attorney who has ended up needing an attorney of their own. Schadenfreude indeed. It’s (rather appropriately) like Russian nesting dolls. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4811 "2024-03-19T15:42:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Beat me to it. But the Daily Beast article is fun anyway. > > [Trump New Jersey Golf Club Settlement Hangs Lawyer Alina Habba Out to Dry](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-new-jersey-golf-club-settlement-hangs-lawyer-alina-habba-out-to-dry) > > > [@](#): > > > > Bianco feels betrayed by Habba, who was one of her Bedminster regulars until, her lawsuit says, Habba posed as a concerned friend giving legal advice about how to address alleged sexual harassment by a supervisor—only to abuse that relationship and “fraudulently inducing” her to “quickly agree to unconscionable and illegal terms.” I’m shocked that so many of the Orange Peril’s supporters, acolytes, and lawyers turn out to be unprincipled slimy weasels, and many are ending up in jail and/or disbarred, respectively. Could it be something that they all have in common? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4812 "2024-03-19T16:02:18Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Based on his own court filings, Trump can’t come up with the $464 million needed to post a bond preventing the AG from seizing his properties next week pending Trump’s appeal. This warms my heart on multiple levels. Foremost, though, is that it is the most public admission to date that Trump is not the billionaire he has claimed to be. At least a few people will see this as an emperor has no clothes moment. The dude was…_lying_ all along about his wealth. I hate to ask, but: is it possible that Trump is simply lying _now,_ about not being able to come up with the money? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4813 "2024-03-19T16:03:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Beat me to it. But the Daily Beast article is fun anyway. Even Faux News is saying Trump’s net worth is only $2.6 billion… a quarter of what Trump was claiming a few years ago. It’s Schadenfreudey to think that his penalties in his fraud case represent 20% of his net worth. 😅 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4814 "2024-03-19T16:06:15Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I hate to ask, but: is it possible that Trump is simply lying _now,_ about not being able to come up with the money? Doesn’t matter - the property seizures should be able to go ahead either way under the legal principle of “Infelix est quod tu es qui es”. Which roughly translates as “Sucks to be you”. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4815 "2024-03-19T16:14:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Another Trump attorney who has ended up needing an attorney of their own. MAGA = Making Attorneys Get Attorneys (stolen from someone else in another thread) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4816 "2024-03-19T16:32:55Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > MAGA = Making Attorneys Get Attorneys It would look great on a hat, methinks. Maybe in blue? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4817 "2024-03-19T16:50:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I hate to ask, but: is it possible that Trump is simply lying _now,_ about not being able to come up with the money? While it’s possible he actually able to come up with the cash I think it’s very unlikely. He’s admitted to the world that he’s not as wealthy as he said he was. Given his ego, I don’t think he’d make that admission if it were at all possible. In fact, Trump tweeted/truthed that he’d have to sell assets to raise the money. Unless the appeals court gives him a break, Trump’s going to start bleeding pretty soon. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4818 "2024-03-19T17:23:44Z")
Based on the suit he lost, His whole “empire” is buying something for a dollar – getting a loan for for two dollars with the first “something” as collateral – etc. Somewhere along the way he forgot you’re supposed to find a rube to be liable for the loans. Convincing a bank to loan you the money isn’t as nice as finding a “partner” to “invest” in your project. It’ll be like exposing his house of cards to a stiff breeze. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4819 "2024-03-19T17:44:45Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Given his ego, I don’t think he’d make that admission if it were at all possible. In fact, Trump tweeted/truthed that he’d have to sell assets to raise the money. Yes, this would be a lie that makes Trump look stupid and weak, which is the exact opposite purpose of all his other lies. I think, for once, Trump has _had_ to tell the truth, because physical reality has finally caught up to him. He’s in hock for hundreds of millions of dollars, and it’s to _the government_ this time. He won’t be able to pull some shell game tricks to delay paying this money. If he doesn’t meet the deadline, the government just starts seizing all his shit, which a bank couldn’t do nearly so easily. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4820 "2024-03-19T17:46:30Z")
I thought about this and about the only reason I could think that he would possibly make this claim if he actually had the money was as part of a scheme to deceive the NY appeals court and get their sympathy to forego or greatly reduce the bond requirement and thereby save millions of dollars. While Trump trying to commit some sort of deception to avoid consequences would be totally on brand for him, admitting he isn’t loaded with money would be absolute anathema to him. That’s tantamount to admitting he was lying. Something he NEVER does. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4821 "2024-03-19T17:50:07Z")
Also, Trump hates spending his own money. He’d rather spend _your_ money if possible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=240) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=242)