# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 242
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4822 "2024-03-19T18:38:02Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > While Trump trying to commit some sort of deception to avoid consequences would be totally on brand for him, admitting he isn’t loaded with money would be absolute anathema to him. That’s tantamount to admitting he was lying. Something he NEVER does. And while he’d be happy to tell the court he couldn’t pay and tell his supporters that he was cleverly fooling the deep state, even he knows that is a bad idea in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4823 "2024-03-19T19:08:29Z")
Which is why he’s switched over to lying about how he’s been hit with the biggest fine ever. So that he can say, “I can’t pay this much because NO ONE could pay this much. This fine is more than even I, DJT, is able to pay. Totally not lying about being rich.” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4824 "2024-03-19T21:32:38Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I think, for once, Trump has _had_ to tell the truth, because physical reality has finally caught up to him. He’s in hock for hundreds of millions of dollars, and it’s to _the government_ this time. He won’t be able to pull some shell game tricks to delay paying this money. For decades he’s skated by on stiffing contractors and other parties without the resources to fight back and if necessary to wait him out, and I suspect he’s so accustomed to that state of affairs that he’s had trouble grasping just how screwed he is this time. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4825 "2024-03-19T21:40:08Z")
Buh-bye Trump Tower. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4826 "2024-03-19T22:29:30Z")
Sooo… Let’s say that assets start to be seized before the appeal. But then he wins the appeal. What then? Are the assets given back to Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4827 "2024-03-19T22:30:15Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Poor Alina Habba is in trouble after all her hard work defending the Orange Ogre. To sum up the article, a settlement was reached in a lawsuit between Bedminster and an employee, but it excluded Habba, who was smack in the middle of the incident that sparked the suit. This is exactly what I predicted a while back. See the OP of the thread I created here in the Pit for Habba. > [@The Alina Habba Pit thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965): > > Continuing the discussion from [What is Alina Habba's deep game?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-alina-habbas-deep-game/995829/23): I think that Trump’s lawyer deserves her own thread. A mod note in the P&E thread dedicated to her suggested taking some of the discussion to the Pit, following a comment from @I_Love_Me_Vol.I about coming up with a mocking nickname for her. I’ll also repeat what I had said over in the P&E thread about how she got to be Trump’s lawyer. She targeted a Trump employee who had been a victim of sexual assault by her manager (not Tr… ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4828 "2024-03-20T00:42:30Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > His wealth isn’t very liquid Well, there is the pool at Mar-a-Lago. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4829 "2024-03-20T02:44:16Z")
What’s the going rate for liquid gold (aka Trump branded pool pee)? I haven’t been paying super close attention to the Trump shenanigans at the RNC, but I listened to the NY Times _The Daily_ podcast today which had me totally shadenfreuding in my shorts. I had no idea things were so dire on the RNC fundraising efforts and I don’t see things improving. And even if they did, he’ll totally be sucking up all those funds hurting all the rest of the Rs relying on it. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4830 "2024-03-20T03:00:24Z")
The RNC kitty has been seized by Drump, Inc. A fellow election denier and his daughter-in-law are co-chairs. A poo filled litter box remains for the down slate races. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4831 "2024-03-20T03:45:28Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > …And why the hell does this lowlife get a listen to by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court; it should have been by the night court traffic judge. Nitpick: “Chief Justice of the United States.” > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Also, Trump hates spending his own money. He’d rather spend _your_ money if possible. That’s why I’ve always been baffled that a man who regularly boasts of his own vast wealth has spent so little of it on his own political campaigns, while relentlessly asking his supporters to send him more and more of their limited funds. And they do! ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4832 "2024-03-20T11:57:53Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Nitpick: “Chief Justice of the United States.” [MontyPython] I didn’t vote for him [/MP] #notmychiefjustice ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4833 "2024-03-20T17:56:34Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > As long as the appeals court doesn’t let the fucker off the hook. My understanding is that he cannot appeal _until_ he pays the $464 million. > [@enipla](#): > > Sooo… Let’s say that assets start to be seized before the appeal. > > But then he wins the appeal. > > What then? Are the assets given back to Trump? Good question. I have no idea. My guess is that they would seize the assets and then auction them off until they get the $464 million he owes. Then Trump can appeal, and if he wins they just give him the cash they collected at auction. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4834 "2024-03-20T18:00:05Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > My understanding is that he cannot appeal _until_ he pays the $464 million. My understanding is that he can appeal, but that won’t stop the state from carrying out the judgment. There is always a chance the appeals court will allow him to post a lower bond or waive that requirement. Not a good chance but a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4835 "2024-03-20T18:04:11Z")
N/M. What [Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio) said above is correct. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4836 "2024-03-20T18:31:28Z")
I think I poorly worded what amounts to the same thing. As in, we are saying similar things but I butchered it. He can appeal, but that won’t do anything to stop them from seizing his assets on Monday unless he posts the $464 million, or finds a company to guarantee that they will pay that if he loses the appeal. Of course no company will make that guarantee, and since he can’t post the $464 million himself, there is nothing standing in the way of what looks to be shaping up to be one of the most schadenfreudy Mondays in living memory. I think what I was trying to say was he can’t use an appeal as a delay tactic to delay collection of that judgment unless he actually posts the full amount first. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4837 "2024-03-20T18:35:47Z")
It’s not limited to his New York assets, right? Can New York State seize Mar-A-Lago, for example? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4838 "2024-03-20T18:55:03Z")
Yes, I believe it’s not just possible to collect judgements across state lines, it is frequently done. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4839 "2024-03-20T19:14:45Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Can New York State seize Mar-A-Lago, for example? ISTR Florida has a homestead exemption for a personal residence. Setting aside whether Mar-A-Lago qualifies as a personal residence, can another state seize property in Florida despite that exemption? I know that the exemption does not apply for the case of unpaid taxes to Florida or the federal government. Any real lawyers (especially those who know Florida law) are invited to weigh in… ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4840 "2024-03-20T19:43:47Z")
The good news for Trump is that posting bond keeps them from going after his assets until the appeal is over. The good news for the state of NY is that if Trump posts bond, that money’s in the bank. If he loses his appeal, they don’t have to go after his assets they just take the bond money. (The bad news for whoever posts his bond is now _they_ have to go after Trump’s assets to recover their money, and sort through the tangled web of TrumpCo finances.) At least that’s my understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4841 "2024-03-20T19:52:35Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > (The bad news for whoever posts his bond is now _they_ have to go after Trump’s assets to recover their money, and sort through the tangled web of TrumpCo finances.) Which is why it’s proving difficult. They like to get it all sorted out and locked in before they issue the bond so collection is easy at the end of the day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=241) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=243)