# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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I think I hear music…either the world’s smallest violin playing, or possibly a faint _wah_-wah ‘sad trumpet’ sound.

[**Trump calls NY attorney general’s bond suggestions ‘impractical and unjust’**](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/21/politics/trump-calls-ny-attorney-generals-bond-suggestions-impractical-and-unjust/index.html)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4883 "2024-03-21T17:15:48Z")

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Another consideration about Russia fronting him the bond money is the need to do it in dollars, not rubles, and hide the transaction from keen-eyed investigators looking for it. Just how much foreign exchange do they have banked? No doubt Putin, for one, has a fortune socked away in countries outside Russia, but how much of that is liquid enough, and can be laundered fast enough, to bail Trump out?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4884 "2024-03-21T17:17:44Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> or manage to fleece his followers to raise enough cash. It looks like trump & his enablers are trying to do so:

I can’t see that happening. Trump is struggling to break $20 million/month for his actual political campaign donations.

[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4545994-trump-brings-in-20-million-in-february-through-campaign-and-fundraising-committee/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4545994-trump-brings-in-20-million-in-february-through-campaign-and-fundraising-committee/)

There’s no way he’s going to magically pull in almost thirty times that amount just for his own personal financial problems.

He either gets a huge boost from someone looking to buy a presidential candidate, or he’s screwed.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4885 "2024-03-21T17:23:24Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The political benefit is basically Putin hitting the jackpot.

Pre-2016, Putin was in a classic, “Heads I win, tails you lose” position. If Trump wins the election, he’s got a stooge in the White House, and if trump loses, he has Trump spreading election denying claims all over the place, degrading trust in the US system of government and causing increasingly divisive public problems. Either way, Putin comes out ahead of the US.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Another consideration about Russia fronting him the bond money is the need to do it in dollars, not rubles, and hide the transaction from keen-eyed investigators looking for it.

Chubb has an office in Moscow. I don’t see any reason why the Moscow office couldn’t make an inter-company transfer to the Zürich headquarters, which could then make an inter-company transfer to the U.S. headquarters in New Jersey.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
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Alina Habba was asked recently about possible funding for the bond from Saudi or Russia and refused to “divulge strategy.” Should have been an easy “no,” no?

I believe the MAGA waters are being tested to see just how much support this would cost him.

As for Russian ROI, having a compliant US president could save them tens, maybe even _hundreds_ of billions in Ukraine alone.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > or manage to fleece his followers to raise enough cash. It looks like trump & his enablers are trying to do so:
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> I can’t see that happening. Trump is struggling to break $20 million/month for his actual political campaign donations.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> At the moment, they’re not raising enough to cover the daily interest.

Hey, I am never more happy to be told I’m wrong than on this subject! 😄

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4889 "2024-03-21T17:49:10Z")

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I don’t know, it seems the Simpsons were pretty prescient, only nobody took them seriously in that regard. And then there is Lou Reed, who not only wrote _[Dirt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1E06cWL-cw)_ in the '70s, a song that must refer to Trump if you listen to the lyrics, but he also wrote _Sick of You_ in **1989** (OK, technically not the '90s), which includes this fourth verse that has me scratching my head:

They ordained the Trumps and then he got the mumps  
And died being treated at Mt. Sinai  
And my best friend Bill died from a poison pill  
Some wired doctor prescribed for stress  
My arms and legs are shrunk, the food all has lumps  
They discovered some animal no one’s ever seen  
It was an inside trader eating a rubber tire  
After running over Rudy Giuliani  
They say the President’s dead, no one can find his head  
It’s been missing now for weeks  
But no one noticed it, he had seemed so fit  
I’m sick of it  
I’m sick of you

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Oh man, I love Lou Reed’s “New York” album. It has many other prescient lines about America’s state today:

From “Dirty Boulevard”:

_“Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor, I’ll piss on 'em”_  
_That’s what the statue of bigotry says_  
_Your poor huddled masses, let’s club 'em to death_  
_And get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard_

Or from “The Last Great American Whale”:

_Well, Americans don’t care for much of anything_  
_Land and water the least_  
_And animal life is low on the totem pole_  
_With human life not worth more than infected yeast_

_Americans don’t care too much for beauty_  
_They’ll shit in a river, dump battery acid in a stream_  
_They’ll watch dead rats wash up on the beach_  
_Complain if they can’t swim_

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I don’t know, it seems the Simpsons were pretty prescient, only nobody took them seriously in that regard.

I’m pretty sure I heard somewhere that the writer who came up with the Simpsons’ “President trump” gag did so by thinking of the public figure of the time who would be the most ridiculous, unlikely choice to ever become President. So it’s more an example of ‘holy beejezus truth is stranger than fiction’ than it is of ‘The Simpsons is prescient!’.

Those Lou Reed lyrics are eerily Nostradamic, though.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
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> [@solost](#):
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> delightfully schadenfreudey Monday.

Ad: "You’ve enjoyed Maundy Thursday for years. Now we present: Schadenfreudey Monday!

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They call it Schadenfreudey Monday, but let’s hope Tuesday’s just as bad

And Lord, Wednesday’s worse, and on Thursday trump posts “SAD!”

The judgements file on Friday, Saturday he doesn’t have a place to stay

Sunday trump is broke and homeless, with his campaign in decay.

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Golf clap!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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Dark Brandon is on fire, according to this anecdote circulating on the interwebs:

> [@](#):
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> At the Highland Park fundraiser (which raised $2.5m for the Biden campaign, per host), Biden begins to tell a story about a person coming up to him with crushing debt. Biden said he responded, “Donald, I can’t help you.”

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LOL, did the person come up to Biden with tears in their eyes? Did they say, “Sir”?

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> [@solost](#):
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> I’m concerned he maybe could get financed by a Russian bank

This implies that he isn’t already.

Lots o’ bitcoin moving around in recent times. That’s all I’m saying. 😉

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Dark Brandon is on fire, according to this anecdote circulating on the interwebs:

He also (or, more accurately, whoever manages his ‘X’ account) had a great response to trump’s “ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO?” post…

(Scroll to bottom of article):

> **[Biden answers Trump's 'are you better off' question with brutal review of...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2020-response/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump this week asked Americans if they were better off today than they were four years ago -- and now President Joe Biden is working to make him regret floating that particular question.At this time four years ago, the...

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> [@solost](#):
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> (Scroll to bottom of article):

Not sure if this happens to everyone, but my screen went crazy with warnings and virus threats when I clicked on that link.

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Weird, didn’t happen for me. I should probably scan my HD just in case. Apologies if I unknowingly exposed anyone to any malware.

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Is there a Cliff Notes version? 'Cuz a canNOT listen to that man speak, plus I’m at work.

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