# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 246
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4902 "2024-03-21T20:38:04Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > He either gets a huge boost from someone looking to buy a presidential candidate, or he’s screwed. _Or_ the appeals court reduces his bond. I hope it doesn’t happen, but I can’t fail to notice that none of the screws that have been put to Trump have made actual contact yet. I know, I know. It’s imminent. Still imminent. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4903 "2024-03-21T20:43:54Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > He either gets a huge boost from someone looking to buy a presidential candidate, or he’s screwed. or you get a Koch brother as running mate … 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4904 "2024-03-21T20:45:07Z")
Monday’s Trump is full of debt Tuesday’s Trump just wept and wept Wednesday’s Trump is full of woe Thursday’s Trump has so much owed Friday’s Trump finds no reprieve Saturday’s Trump can naught but grieve But when Trump hits the Sabbath day He has no choice but pay pay pay. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4905 "2024-03-21T20:46:59Z")
Here’s a prediction. We’re all waiting to see what happens Monday. I predict that what happens on Monday is we hear about how another delay has been approved by the court. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4906 "2024-03-21T20:47:22Z")
That’s what I honestly expect also. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4907 "2024-03-21T20:47:50Z")
Donald Trumpy, Sued on a Monday, Subpoena’d on Tuesday, Testified on Wednesday, Found liable on Thursday, Appealed on Friday, Denied on Saturday, Broke on Sunday, That was the end, Of Donald Trumpy. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4908 "2024-03-21T20:55:16Z")
Nice! Kudos to @Atamasama as well. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4909 "2024-03-21T20:56:08Z")
Just FYI, some say that Trump could gain over 3 Billion $ in his alleged wealth if the Spac that could float Truth (sic!) Social (sick!) is allowed to proceed by its (the Spac’s) shareholders: > **[How does Trump stand to make $3bn from Truth Social being listed on the market?](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/21/trump-truth-social)** > > The company – which has only raised $5m since 2021 – benefits from meme stock status, valued not for revenue but for clicks All I can say to that hypothesis is that should TS be listed it would be the clearest candidate in my memory to short. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4910 "2024-03-21T21:07:47Z")
That would be paper money. It’s not realized gains until he finds some suckers to buy the stock. And if he’s dumping stock at an amazing rate to get the cash, the stock prices is going to plummet into the earth’s core. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4911 "2024-03-21T21:15:11Z")
As I have mentioned before, he is contractually constrained from selling Truth Social stock after the merger. I forget the time frame, but it is longer than “a couple of months.” He can’t use that for funds. Any lifeline he gets will be from Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4912 "2024-03-21T21:16:59Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Monday’s Trump is full of debt > Tuesday’s Trump just wept and wept > Wednesday’s Trump is full of woe > Thursday’s Trump has so much owed > Friday’s Trump finds no reprieve > Saturday’s Trump can naught but grieve > But when Trump hits the Sabbath day > He has no choice but pay pay pay. Thursday’s Trump has too much to owe ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4913 "2024-03-21T21:17:34Z")
I’ll believe that Truth Social is worth 3 billion when I see Mexico pay for a border length wall. Bull fucking shit. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4914 "2024-03-21T21:21:21Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Thursday’s Trump has too much to owe Yes, that’s better. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4915 "2024-03-21T21:28:33Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > the stock prices is going to plummet into the earth’s core That is why I would see TS as a once in a lifetime shorting opportunity. As I would not be the only one I would probably not be able to benefit from it myself: professionals would have a field day, though. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4916 "2024-03-21T21:43:48Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > (Scroll to bottom of article): > > Not sure if this happens to everyone, but my screen went crazy with warnings and virus threats when I clicked on that link. Not virus warnings, but so many ads trying to load that it’s impossible to read the article at all, much less scroll to the bottom. Which is pretty much why I usually avoid clicking on Raw Story links. (Yeah yeah, I know, get an ad blocker…) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4917 "2024-03-21T22:00:59Z")
Fun part is: the link on the stupid clickbait site links to a video on xitter. At least it is not a picture of the video on xitter. Some people should only be allowed on the internet with help from their 14yo cousin. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4918 "2024-03-21T22:05:52Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > That is why I would see TS as a once in a lifetime shorting opportunity. As I would not be the only one I would probably not be able to benefit from it myself: professionals would have a field day, though. You ought to be able to buy publicly traded put options. They will be expensive, but not out of reach for average investors. Ask your financial advisor. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4919 "2024-03-21T22:06:19Z")
Here’s some delicious schadenfreude: > **[Opinion | New York judge’s ruling on evidence couldn’t have gone worse for Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/21/trump-new-york-trial-evidence-motions-business-merchan/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzEwOTkzNjAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzEyMzc1OTk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MTA5OTM2MDAsImp0aSI6ImRiZDc5YjYyLWE1OTctNDI4OS1hNDY0LWQ0OWFhN2NjYmQyZCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDI0LzAzLzIxL3RydW1wLW5ldy15b3JrLXRyaWFsLWV2aWRlbmNlLW1vdGlvbnMtYnVzaW5lc3MtbWVyY2hhbi8ifQ.k6X7aWB-blZ2sjAiQs5lrNvPWOfv0wAgzTep-M69JTg&itid=gfta)** > > Justice Merchan’s ruling indicates that for him, many Trump defenses aren’t legitimate legal arguments. (Gift link) > Four-time indicted former president [Donald Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/donald-trump/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) suffered arguably his worst loss(es) in any criminal matter this week when, in his New York trial for alleged falsification of business records, Judge Juan M. Merchan [ruled against him](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/trump-access-hollywood-hush-money-new-york/183de6b2-e577-11ee-9eba-1558f848ec25_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) in virtually all of [his motions to exclude evidence](https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Case-Clearinghouse-Order-on-Trump-motion-in-limine-March-18-2024.pdf). By contrast, the judge largely granted Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s [motions to exclude evidence](https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Case-Clearinghouse-Order-on-State-of-New-York-motions-in-limine-March-18-2024.pdf) for trial that Trump believed might be exculpatory. That does not bode well for Trump’s chances to avoid conviction when the case goes to trial, likely in a few weeks. > In sum, the lion’s share of the evidence that Trump views as damaging will be heard by the jury. This underscores the quantity and strength of the facts that implicate Trump. It surely explains why he has been desperate to avoid trial. > > Even worse for Trump, the judge granted the prosecutor’s key motions to exclude evidence and arguments that Trump hoped would sway the jury in his favor. > It is hard to see how the proceedings could have gone any worse for Trump (although some issues regarding “prior bad acts” were reserved for trial). Although commentators critical of Bragg knocked his case as “novel” or doubted he could introduce evidence of violation of federal campaign, Merchan found otherwise. Merchan’s orders confirm that this in many ways is potentially a traditional white-collar crime, in which falsification in furtherance of other crimes elevates the charges to felonies. The upshot is that Bragg will get to put on his case with evidence he thinks will support a guilty verdict. The jury will not hear some of Trump’s familiar excuses. > > Merchan showed himself to be a serious judge who will not indulge Trump’s antics nor allow the trial to devolve into a spectacle. The case will be tried on straightforward law, and on the mound of evidence Bragg has accumulated. Based on these rulings, Trump should be quaking in his boots. Between my excerpts, Rubin lists all the things that the judge ruled against Trump on, and for Bragg. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4920 "2024-03-21T22:44:07Z")
> Likewise, the judge rejected Trump’s effort to exclude evidence including the “[Access Hollywood](https://apnews.com/arts-and-entertainment-events-united-states-presidential-election-television-5906910b70224c62b8013100d8749d3e)” tape So the jury will get to hear how Trump likes to grab women by the pussy. That’s gonna help him out a bunch, I bet. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4921 "2024-03-21T23:00:08Z")
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